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Old 09-02-08, 02:24 PM   #51
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Well as I said before, I had the last pick in my 8 team draft so here is what I got

Starters

QB: Payton IND.
RB: Portis WAS.
RB/WR: D. McFadden OAK.
WR: C. Johnson DET.
WR: P. Burress NYG.
TE: D. Clark IND.
PK: Folk DAL.
DST: NE.

Notable Backups
RB: Graham TB.
WR: Moss WAS.
WR: Williams DET.
WR Holmes PIT.
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Old 09-02-08, 02:36 PM   #52
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I'm surprised you like Heap that much. I was concerned about him staying healthy.

Remember its a 10 team league and WR/TEs are interchangeable... So...

RBs: I have 5 (Addai, Johnson, Stewart, KSmith, and Perry) All five are potential starters... Should I give him or KS up or look to trade???

WRs: I have 5 (B.Edwards, C.Johnson, K Winslow, B.Berrian, and Reggie Brown) still rated above Heap in terms of point production, but BB and RB are big questions. Would you take Desean Jackson over one of the above and/or Heap??? Is DJ better value than R.Brown (also from PHI)?

QBs: Should I keep 3 QBs (McNabb, Delhomme, & Schaub) and/or look to trade?

I've only got 15 roster spots and w/ 3QBs, 5 RBs, 5 WR/TEs, 1K, and 1 DEF I am full...

Thanks...
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Old 09-02-08, 02:54 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by cool cat:
Well as I said before, I had the last pick in my 8 team draft so here is what I got

Starters

QB: Payton IND.
RB: Portis WAS.
RB/WR: D. McFadden OAK.
WR: C. Johnson DET.
WR: P. Burress NYG.
TE: D. Clark IND.
PK: Folk DAL.
DST: NE.

Notable Backups
RB: Graham TB.
WR: Moss WAS.
WR: Williams DET.
WR Holmes PIT.
Not bad ......I would personally start Roy Williams over Calvin Johnson and Graham over McFadden
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Originally Posted by esparzar1:
I think ya made a mistake in not taking Chad in the 4th but Welker should have a solid yr. Nice draft overall
the only reason I didn't take Chad was because I already had TJ.

My receivers won't get many yards, but it's a PPR league which should make up for it a bit since TJ and Welker both led the NFL last year with 112 catches. Santonio Holmes is the long ball guy for the Steelers and I think he hits the 75-80 catch mark this year.

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Although your strategy went out the window, could you really ask for more from your first two picks?????? I'm a firm believer in getting 2 RB's in the first 2 rds.
man, I would have loved getting Addai if I had the 5th pick, let alone the 10th.

I don't like sticking to the 2 RB in the 1st two round formula year after year. I think you gotta change things up based on the year and based on where you pick.

Tell me what running back will total 23 touchdowns this year like Moss did last year? Maybe one or two of the top 3 RBs and that's it. I'd much rather have Moss than a tier 2 RB.
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Old 09-02-08, 03:33 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Blake:
the only reason I didn't take Chad was because I already had TJ.

My receivers won't get many yards, but it's a PPR league which should make up for it a bit since TJ and Welker both led the NFL last year with 112 catches. Santonio Holmes is the long ball guy for the Steelers and I think he hits the 75-80 catch mark this year.



man, I would have loved getting Addai if I had the 5th pick, let alone the 10th.

I don't like sticking to the 2 RB in the 1st two round formula year after year. I think you gotta change things up based on the year and based on where you pick.

Tell me what running back will total 23 touchdowns this year like Moss did last year? Maybe one or two of the top 3 RBs and that's it. I'd much rather have Moss than a tier 2 RB.
True, but how many times does a WR have 23 TD's in one yr? I dunno I you can consider Gore a "tier 2 RB" Anywho, you still have a very, very good draft. I would be happy with that line-up in a 10 or 12 man league and you got that talent in a 14 man league? Impressive
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Originally Posted by X-Wing:
I'm surprised you like Heap that much. I was concerned about him staying healthy.
It's not that I like him that much as much as it's you just dropped a somewhat valuable starting tight end for nothing.
At least throw him out there for some trades........maybe package him with one of those running backs for a wide receiver.

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Remember its a 10 team league and WR/TEs are interchangeable... So...

RBs: I have 5 (Addai, Johnson, Stewart, KSmith, and Perry) All five are potential starters... Should I give him or KS up or look to trade???
this part is strictly my own opinion:

I'm not high on LJ at all. I think you wait to see how he does in week 1. If he busts out and has 100 yards and a TD, I think you go against your gut and you trade him for a wide receiver.

I think you can ride Perry as a #2 RB if he stays healthy and then see if the other Cincy RB K Watson is still available.

I'm not big on rookies at all, especially at RB and if there are some takers, you might want to trade K Smith while his value is still somewhat high.

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WRs: I have 5 (B.Edwards, C.Johnson, K Winslow, B.Berrian, and Reggie Brown) still rated above Heap in terms of point production, but BB and RB are big questions. Would you take Desean Jackson over one of the above and/or Heap??? Is DJ better value than R.Brown (also from PHI)?
Philly has a lot of injuries at the WR spot and DeSean had a fine preseason. I know I just said I'm not high on rookies, but Philly looks to be in a jam and may have no choice but to go to DJ for the first few games of the year.

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QBs: Should I keep 3 QBs (McNabb, Delhomme, & Schaub) and/or look to trade?
package Heap, Delhomme and K Smith and you just might score a decent WR. Look for somebody that is weak at TE and QB.

You may even want to take a stab at a top tier receiver like Reggie Wayne or Marques Colston and offer up something like:

keep Heap and trade Winslow/LJ/ Delhomme for Wayne/RB/DEF or something like that.

just bust out the calculator and start crunching projected numbers.
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Originally Posted by esparzar1:
True, but how many times does a WR have 23 TD's in one yr? I dunno I you can consider Gore a "tier 2 RB" Anywho, you still have a very, very good draft. I would be happy with that line-up in a 10 or 12 man league and you got that talent in a 14 man league? Impressive
Gore is borderline tier 1/ tier 2 in my book. If I had to choose between those 2 guys, it would be a tough call.

I dont think Moss gets 23, but a drop 'way down' to 15 or 16 is still better than almost any back out there. I seriously doubt Gore gets 15 TDs.
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Originally Posted by Blake:
Gore is borderline tier 1/ tier 2 in my book. If I had to choose between those 2 guys, it would be a tough call.

I dont think Moss gets 23, but a drop 'way down' to 15 or 16 is still better than almost any back out there. I seriously doubt Gore gets 15 TDs.
You gotta remember that Gore is in a Mike Martz offense though. He regularly underutilizes great backs. He is a solid mid to lower tier 2 IMO.
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Just did my draft... I'm relatively happy with it. Its an 8 team league, with a 15 man roster, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 RB/WR, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K. Backups in parentheses.

QB: Matt Hasslebeck (Brett Favre)
RB: Brian Westbrook (Chester Taylor, Steve Slaton, Felix Jones)
RB/WR: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Andre Johnson (Javon Walker, Hines Ward)
WR: Steve Smith
TE: Kellen Winslow (Jeremy Shockey)
D/ST: Chicago
K: Stephen Gostkowski

I'm probably going to end up trading one of my RB's and Brett or Matt once I see which will actually play decent.
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Originally Posted by sam1617:
You gotta remember that Gore is in a Mike Martz offense though. He regularly underutilizes great backs. He is a solid mid to lower tier 2 IMO.
I thought he did a great job with S Jax and Faulk in St Louis. He didn't have much to work with in Detroit in the way of RBs.

I dunno. I watched SF play in the preseason and Gore was racking up yards both receiving and running.......the problem I had with him was watching him get stuffed at the goalline on several occasions, and I recall seeing that same problem last year where we saw his back up come in and poach a few TDs.

My guess is that Gore ends the season with 10-11 total TDs, 1600 total yards..........to which don't get me wrong, I'd be happy enough with.......I just am not sure he's worth taking over Moss.
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Originally Posted by sam1617:
Just did my draft... I'm relatively happy with it. Its an 8 team league, with a 15 man roster, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 RB/WR, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K. Backups in parentheses.

QB: Matt Hasslebeck (Brett Favre)
RB: Brian Westbrook (Chester Taylor, Steve Slaton, Felix Jones)
RB/WR: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Andre Johnson (Javon Walker, Hines Ward)
WR: Steve Smith
TE: Kellen Winslow (Jeremy Shockey)
D/ST: Chicago
K: Stephen Gostkowski

I'm probably going to end up trading one of my RB's and Brett or Matt once I see which will actually play decent.
nice team. You may even want to start the season with Brett instead of Matt.

Youve also got some decent trade bait with either Shockey or Winslow. With Steve Smith out for 2 weeks, you may want to throw out some feelers for another WR.
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Originally Posted by Blake:
nice team. You may even want to start the season with Brett instead of Matt.

Youve also got some decent trade bait with either Shockey or Winslow. With Steve Smith out for 2 weeks, you may want to throw out some feelers for another WR.
Damnit... I forgot the damn fool got himself suspended...

I might just try and use Walker and Ward to cover for him for the two weeks...
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Originally Posted by sam1617:
Damnit... I forgot the damn fool got himself suspended...

I might just try and use Walker and Ward to cover for him for the two weeks...
well, the other reason why I say to throw out some feelers is because we all know how inury prone that Andre Johnson is. You could easily be in a bind very quickly at WR, and you really don't need two top five TEs.
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I'm trying to stockpile players off waivers that might be good trade bait for others:

Available waiver players (10-team league):
WR DeSean Jackson (already have Reggie Brown, but I want DeSean. I may try to package Brown in a deal and take a chance on DeSean)
RB Ray Rice (backing up McGahee returning from knee surgery)
RB Maurice Morris (backing up the shaky Julius Jones)
RB Kenny Watson
WR Eddie Royal

Are any of these more valuable than the backups I already own:
QB Schaub & Delhomme (McNabb is my starter and I know several guys are weak at QB)
RB Chris Perry (the newly minted, though fragile, starter in CIN, I have Addai, LJ, JStew, and KSmith above Perry on the depth chart)

I may wait to see what happens with injuries after WK1 to see who needs to pick up some help, but some of the above could be gone by then.

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Originally Posted by X-Wing:
I'm trying to stockpile players off waivers that might be good trade bait for others:

Available waiver players (10-team league):
WR DeSean Jackson (already have Reggie Brown, but I want DeSean. I may try to package Brown in a deal and take a chance on DeSean)
RB Ray Rice (backing up McGahee returning from knee surgery)
RB Maurice Morris (backing up the shaky Julius Jones)
RB Kenny Watson
WR Eddie Royal

Are any of these more valuable than the backups I already own:
QB Schaub & Delhomme (McNabb is my starter and I know several guys are weak at QB)
RB Chris Perry (the newly minted, though fragile, starter in CIN, I have Addai, LJ, JStew, and KSmith above Perry on the depth chart)

I may wait to see what happens with injuries after WK1 to see who needs to pick up some help, but some of the above could be gone by then.
the one guy I really have my eye on is DeSean. Based on what he did in the preseason and the injury situation in with the WRs in Philly, he could be good to start off the season.
In fact, I'm leaning towards starting him as my #3 this week instead of Nate Burleson.

The other guys you mentioned are scrubs at this point and if they are on the free agent list then I seriously doubt anyone wants to trade for them after you pick them up.
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Originally Posted by X-Wing:
I'm trying to stockpile players off waivers that might be good trade bait for others:

Available waiver players (10-team league):
WR DeSean Jackson (already have Reggie Brown, but I want DeSean. I may try to package Brown in a deal and take a chance on DeSean)
RB Ray Rice (backing up McGahee returning from knee surgery)
RB Maurice Morris (backing up the shaky Julius Jones)
RB Kenny Watson
WR Eddie Royal

Are any of these more valuable than the backups I already own:
QB Schaub & Delhomme (McNabb is my starter and I know several guys are weak at QB)
RB Chris Perry (the newly minted, though fragile, starter in CIN, I have Addai, LJ, JStew, and KSmith above Perry on the depth chart)

I may wait to see what happens with injuries after WK1 to see who needs to pick up some help, but some of the above could be gone by then.
I might try and pick up Reshard Mendenhall. I think hes going to be the goal line guy behind Willie Parker for the Steelers, so he ought to get a handful of TD's.
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Originally Posted by Blake:
well, the other reason why I say to throw out some feelers is because we all know how inury prone that Andre Johnson is. You could easily be in a bind very quickly at WR, and you really don't need two top five TEs.
I dropped Slaton and picked up Lee Evans off the waiver wire. I'm hoping Evans has a much better year than last year (which I think he should).

I'm still hoping I can swing a trade for Wes Welker, but I don't see how that is possible. The only guys I have that he might want is Kellen Winslow or Shockey, and they probably aren't worth it to him.
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Originally Posted by sam1617:
I might try and pick up Reshard Mendenhall. I think hes going to be the goal line guy behind Willie Parker for the Steelers, so he ought to get a handful of TD's.
eh, he did get drafted in most of my leagues....but.......the Steelers passed verrry often when they got into the red zone last year.

who knows though.....maybe they think he can be the Bus part 2.......even so, imo, at best you'll be lucky if he gets you 8 or 9 points in any given week (30 yards and a TD).... and I bet there are slightly better RB options on your free agent list at the moment
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