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Old 07-30-09, 01:15 PM
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Ramirez, Ortiz tested positive for PEDs in 2003

Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz were among the 104 major league players listed as having tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, lawyers with knowledge of the results told The New York Times.

The two were key members of the Boston Red Sox World Series championship teams in 2004 and 2007.

Ortiz declined comment to The Times.

Ramirez, now with the Los Angeles Dodgers, recently came off a 50-game suspension for violating baseball's drug policy by obtaining a prescription for a banned female fertility drug.

In June, The Times reported Sammy Sosa was on the 2003 list, and Alex Rodriguez admitted to have used performance-enhancing drugs after he was linked to the list in February.

Players were tested in 2003 as part of Major League Baseball's survey to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing in 2004. There were no penalties for a positive test in 2003.

As part of the drug agreement between the union and MLB, the results of the testing of 1,198 players also were meant to be anonymous. Penalties began in 2004, and suspensions for a first positive test started in 2005.

Government agents initially obtained search warrants in 2004 for the drug-testing records of 10 players as part of its BALCO investigation that led to Barry Bonds' perjury indictment, but they found the more expansive list on a spreadsheet, obtained additional warrants and seized the larger group of records.

The union went to court, arguing the search was illegal, and three U.S. District judges agreed.

The government appealed, and a panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled for the government, but the entire 9th Circuit threw out the reversal and decided to hear the case itself. The hearing was in December, and the decision is pending. The losing side could then appeal to the Supreme Court.

Report: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz tested positive for PEDs in 2003 - ESPN
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Old 07-30-09, 02:22 PM
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i remember Ortiz called out everyone who used them. I'm a Yankees fan and I got to say the BoSox acted like the darlings of the league, now they're just like the rest of us. the fans also chanted steroid chants for A-Rod, how about it now folks?!
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Old 07-30-09, 04:28 PM
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nooooooooooo Big Papi
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Old 07-30-09, 04:47 PM
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Not surprised anymore, but really dont care, its pretty obvious it was a even playing field because everyone was juicing up during that time. Now i think its a little different, players are probably juicing up but not as many IMO.
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Old 07-30-09, 11:38 PM
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Baseball is DEAD to me...you can't believe in ANYONE..Ortiz..is big..but kinda fat..and he was on it..damn when will the bleeding stop?

Also we worried about the people who tested positive...who in the hell keeps leaking the names???
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Old 07-31-09, 11:36 PM
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2003??? WTF??
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