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Big Empty 04-21-07 08:53 AM

De La Hoya VS Mayweather
 
Man I can't wait for this! I think De La Hoya will catch this guy one time by the 6th or 7th round and knock him out. I'm gonna BBQ, invite my crew over and get reaaallly drunk!

SpurInDallas 04-21-07 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Empty (Post 1078804)
Man I can't wait for this! I think De La Hoya will catch this guy one time by the 6th or 7th round and knock him out. I'm gonna BBQ, invite my crew over and get reaaallly drunk!

I'm gonna have to record this on the DVR since its my bachelor party night!!! :beer

Spurs Crusader 04-21-07 09:52 AM

It's also in HD.....

:rock

joshtd1 04-21-07 11:53 AM

I wanna order the PPV but i dont wanna pay that much money..none of my friends want to pitch in, those bums. I want De La Hoya to knock him out also

SupermanThree 04-23-07 07:47 AM

I don't see that de la Hoya has much of a shot. If he just manages not to get hurt badly, (and then can take all his money and stick to being the promoter) then he should feel he has done well.

rjv 04-23-07 09:03 AM

i do not like either fighter personality wise. i do think that mayweather wins though. the last fighter who had better hand speed than de la hoya gave oscar fits (mosley) and mayweather is faster even than mosley. of course, as in most of these fights, it will probably be a tremendous bore.

SupermanThree 04-23-07 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rjv (Post 1079858)
i do not like either fighter personality wise. i do think that mayweather wins though. the last fighter who had better hand speed than de la hoya gave oscar fits (mosley) and mayweather is faster even than mosley. of course, as in most of these fights, it will probably be a tremendous bore.

That's basically the problem. There has been so much effort to hype this fight up as 'the real deal' but it feels much like a WWE set-up. I don't think they are genuinely worried about their legacies, because modern boxing is so corrupt/fragmented that any 'king' will just be wearing an aluminium crown. I don't feel any real 'heat'. The two fighters feel like partners, with the paying public as the real enemy. The result is academic.

Matias 04-27-07 02:17 PM

Oscar lost my respect when he lost to Tito Trinidad a few years ago.
I think Mayweather knocks him out...

Edit: When will this happen?

Jason R 04-27-07 03:12 PM

Evrybody lost to Tito back then.

Big Empty 04-27-07 03:16 PM

De La Hoya beat Tito. Even though he did coast the last few rounds. Though his 34-4 record still stands because I think he also beat Mosley the second time and I think he lost against strum and Whitaker.

Matias 04-27-07 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason R (Post 1083868)
Evrybody lost to Tito back then.

I know. But Oscar had the talent to kick Tito´s butt, but the strategy he used was stupid. Ultra defensive.
Oscar blamed his coach, because the strategy made him look scared.

invisiblekid09 04-27-07 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Empty (Post 1083876)
De La Hoya beat Tito. Even though he did coast the last few rounds. Though his 34-4 record still stands because I think he also beat Mosley the second time and I think he lost against strum and Whitaker.

he won against both those guys...though the win against felix sturm was controversial...I got Mayweather by UD.

rjv 04-27-07 04:44 PM

trinidad did beat de la hoya in a majority decision. oscar took the last 2 or 3 rounds off and this cost him the fight, which he had pretty much handled. hopkins then destroyed trinidad. for the record, trinidad has picked de la hoya to win the fight, not that it matters who he picks.

Big Empty 04-30-07 12:44 PM

maaaaan I can't wait! This is equivilant to the Spurs n the game 7 final or the Cowboys in the Superbowl to me!!! Big Big BBQ and lots of alcohol

TexasPandaMama 04-30-07 01:47 PM

Mayweather knocks out DeLa Hoya in the 9th!

Captain_Obvious 05-01-07 03:28 PM

Okay Okay Okay....

They are both VERY savvy businessmen. If I were a gambling man, and I am, look for De La Hoya to contact Mayweather and say it loosk liek we will split the pot and I will go down late, then we will schedule a rematch and whatever happens happens.

Count on it.

Jason R 05-01-07 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matias (Post 1083883)
I know. But Oscar had the talent to kick Tito´s butt, but the strategy he used was stupid. Ultra defensive.
Oscar blamed his coach, because the strategy made him look scared.

I sort of understand the strategy given that -apparently- Tito's fists are like rocks with that hook, but yeah, you can't play too conservative.

SupermanThree 05-02-07 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious (Post 1088668)
Okay Okay Okay....

They are both VERY savvy businessmen. If I were a gambling man, and I am, look for De La Hoya to contact Mayweather and say it loosk liek we will split the pot and I will go down late, then we will schedule a rematch and whatever happens happens.

Count on it.

The pot has already been split very favourably in De La Hoya's direction.

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De la Hoya is reportedly being paid £15m and Mayweather, 30, £6m.

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He was able to negotiate this crazy split based on his huge popularity and residual credibility. He won't have that credibility any more after Mayweather wins this fight, so he won't be able to work toward a better payday. This is his pension fund. He just wants to get out healthy.

SASPURS_21 05-02-07 06:06 AM

De La Hoya will win :rockon

arieloliveto 05-02-07 07:44 AM

Mayweather is not even a tue Welter (is a fat SuperFeather), so I just don´t see him as a big killer in the Super Welter category (154 pounds). Mayweather can never knock De la Hoya down . We all know De la Hoya left hook can damage pretty badly any guy and he can certainly knock Mayweather down. Mayweather is faster, but De la Hoya punches will hurt him most. Besides, De la Hoya wants to enter to the retirement house by the big door, so he should be very motivated for this fight. I think De la Hoya wins by KO or KOT but not before the 7th round.

DaVinci 05-02-07 09:27 AM

Mayweather will destroy Oscar from beginning to end. Oscar will do his usual barrage of punches at the end of rounds to try and steal the round, but I think Oscar will go down in the 7th round, however it will still go to the cards with Mayweather winning by unanimous decision.

Bank on it!

rjv 05-02-07 11:51 AM

i would go with mayweather to win by decision. as to the fight i really do not care who wins just as long as it is an entertaining fight. i do not care for either one that much.

Art Vandalay 05-02-07 01:32 PM

mayweahter has had to move up and is not true at this fighting weight and it takes a lot of power to knock these guys out in the weight class plus being able to take the power shots, de la hoya is used to this weight and has the ko power. he will probably come into the ring at about 160 or so and has the power. this will be mayweather's true test he hasnt really fought anyone good yet. fighting a hurt, past his prime gatti and over rated juda doesnt mean much to me.

im gonna go with my boy oscar on this one, will see how it goes when each fighter takes on each's power punch. then we will see how this fight will turn out.

mayweather will have to punch up to catch oscar's height, which might take away some of his power so body shots will be key. no way is mayweather close to 5'8 1/2, id say he's about 2 inches shorter

Big Empty 05-02-07 02:39 PM

I'll place a SR bet with any of you who believes Mayweather will win. The terms are simple. If Maywether wins, you get to set my avatar and signature to what ever you want and leave it there for 6 weeks. I can't change it . If De la Hoya wins, I get to do the same to yours! SO the first to reply to my wager will officially accept my bet! Lets Get It!

arieloliveto 05-02-07 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaVinci (Post 1089659)
Mayweather will destroy Oscar from beginning to end. Oscar will do his usual barrage of punches at the end of rounds to try and steal the round, but I think Oscar will go down in the 7th round, however it will still go to the cards with Mayweather winning by unanimous decision.

Bank on it!

Dude, you have no idea... Mayweather couldn´t even hurt Baldomir in his last fight, he can´t throw down a plus 160 pounds well trained boxer who happens to be taller and has a better arm reach. Mayweather is faster and technically better, but he has no power to knock out a well trained De la Hoya. I can understand if you go to UD, because Floyd has the in-and-outs combinations, but there is no way he can win by KO. Anyway, De la Hoya by KO or KOT not before the 7th, Floyd will never know what hitted him...

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Originally Posted by Art Vandalay (Post 1089911)
mayweahter has had to move up and is not true at this fighting weight and it takes a lot of power to knock these guys out in the weight class plus being able to take the power shots, de la hoya is used to this weight and has the ko power. he will probably come into the ring at about 160 or so and has the power. this will be mayweather's true test he hasnt really fought anyone good yet. fighting a hurt, past his prime gatti and over rated juda doesnt mean much to me.

im gonna go with my boy oscar on this one, will see how it goes when each fighter takes on each's power punch. then we will see how this fight will turn out.

mayweather will have to punch up to catch oscar's height, which might take away some of his power so body shots will be key. no way is mayweather close to 5'8 1/2, id say he's about 2 inches shorter


My exact points...

Krycek1 05-04-07 09:04 PM

Is the replay of this fight going to be shown on regular HBO the week after like most big PPV fights are?

DaVinci 05-04-07 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Empty (Post 1089967)
I'll place a SR bet with any of you who believes Mayweather will win. The terms are simple. If Maywether wins, you get to set my avatar and signature to what ever you want and leave it there for 6 weeks. I can't change it . If De la Hoya wins, I get to do the same to yours! SO the first to reply to my wager will officially accept my bet! Lets Get It!

I'll do the bet with you! :evil

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Originally Posted by arieloliveto (Post 1090241)
Dude, you have no idea... Mayweather couldn´t even hurt Baldomir in his last fight, he can´t throw down a plus 160 pounds well trained boxer who happens to be taller and has a better arm reach. Mayweather is faster and technically better, but he has no power to knock out a well trained De la Hoya. I can understand if you go to UD, because Floyd has the in-and-outs combinations, but there is no way he can win by KO. Anyway, De la Hoya by KO or KOT not before the 7th, Floyd will never know what hitted him...

Looks like De La Hoya is at 154lbs and Mayweather is at 150lbs. You guys want to hold on to the claim that De La Hoya is still a great boxer. De La Hoya is riding on his name alone nowadays. What is his record in his last 10 fights, something like 7-3 or something like that. De La Hoya is overrated and although I think Mayweather can lose focus from time to time. I think he will come out really focused for this one.

I think De La Hoya will go down first and then Mayweather will get caught with a counter, but I see Mayweather pretty much in control of the entire fight.

Big Empty 05-05-07 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaVinci (Post 1093038)
I'll do the bet with you! :evil



Looks like De La Hoya is at 154lbs and Mayweather is at 150lbs. You guys want to hold on to the claim that De La Hoya is still a great boxer. De La Hoya is riding on his name alone nowadays. What is his record in his last 10 fights, something like 7-3 or something like that. De La Hoya is overrated and although I think Mayweather can lose focus from time to time. I think he will come out really focused for this one.

I think De La Hoya will go down first and then Mayweather will get caught with a counter, but I see Mayweather pretty much in control of the entire fight.


yeah well, who has mayweather fought in his undefeated days. BET. ON! :smirk

omax 05-05-07 11:17 AM

Does anyone know of some bars in town that might be airing the fight?

Hairyhandedgent 05-05-07 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by omax (Post 1093302)
Does anyone know of some bars in town that might be airing the fight?

I hear boxing is popular in the gay community so you might try a gay bar ...

TexasPandaMama 05-05-07 04:57 PM

:up
I cannot believe I got suckered into ordering and watching this....

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TheLadiesMike 05-05-07 07:21 PM

I'll be honest, I never really watch boxing but a friend just called and asked me to help split the cost and come watch, and since I wasn't doing anything I am going to. :lol

Manu_Tres 05-05-07 09:59 PM

Anyone having issues viewing the fight on Time Warner???

Krycek1 05-05-07 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyspurslover (Post 1093524)
i don't get the hype...it's not even a heavyweight bought...not that THAT is interesting either.

let me know how it turns out.

55 bucks buys a lot of beer. :beer


:zzz

lol, are you kidding? The heavyweight class is watered down right now, and middleweight class fights are much better (at least for now).

MomBear 05-05-07 11:42 PM

Mayweather's speed, De La Hoya's power make for dynamite title fight
By GREG BEACHAM, AP Sports Writer
May 5, 2007

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. hadn't stopped talking since he signed up for the one thing he really wanted, a megafight with Oscar De La Hoya that put boxing back in the spotlight.

When the two met at Friday's weigh-in, though, even Mayweather had run out of things to say.

The loquacious Pretty Boy did little more than give a dead-eyed stare to De La Hoya during their weigh-in at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, where they will meet Saturday night in one of the most anticipated -- and hyped -- fights in years.

There was nothing left to be said after months of preparation and name calling. Besides, both fighters know the 154-pound WBC title bout will be determined not by posturing or pay-per-view buys, but by tactics and tenacity in the ring.

"Anything he's said about me, anything I said about him, we can settle it in the ring," Mayweather said. "Can't say nothing to protect you there."

The fight has much more to offer than the personality clashes and family drama so endlessly chronicled in recent weeks seemingly everywhere, including on their own reality series. It's a compelling contrast of styles and skills, with Mayweather's superb defensive game contrasting with De La Hoya's punching power and size advantage.

Though De La Hoya (38-4, 30 KOs) seems more likely to really hit Mayweather (37-0, 24 KOs) than most of his previous opponents, can the Golden Boy do enough damage to hurt one of the quickest and most gifted fighters in recent times?

And will Mayweather risk trading punches with De La Hoya, or will he take the safe way out and try to box his way to a decision in what could be a lackluster fight?

Most oddsmakers and prognosticators favor Mayweather in a decision, but the odds have steadily dropped in De La Hoya's favor during fight week.

"I think everyone will be surprised to see what I can do," De La Hoya said. "We have a solid game plan for this fight, and he's motivated me every step of the way by the way he acts."

Though the hype promises a fight that could live in boxing history, true fight fans understand this matchup could be a huge anticlimax. That's because Mayweather has remained unbeaten largely by using his spectacular defensive techniques and speed to avoid getting seriously punished by any of his 37 previous opponents.

Both fighters made the 154-pound limit Friday, with Mayweather weighing just 150 pounds and De La Hoya hitting exactly 154. Rapper 50 Cent accompanied Mayweather to the stage and draped himself in Mayweather's numerous championship belts, while De La Hoya got most of the fan support from perhaps the biggest crowd ever to attend a weigh-in in this gambling city.

But De La Hoya could outweigh Mayweather even more by the time they step into the ring Saturday night, thanks to his larger frame. Mayweather, a champion in four weight classes, has never fought above 147 pounds, while De La Hoya has been fighting at 154 or heavier for the last six years.

Although De La Hoya is likely to throw harder punches, Mayweather is harder to hit than any fighter in the game. He's simply too fast for the average contender, bobbing his head and swiveling his hips away from everything thrown.

De La Hoya recognized the problem during his preparations, and trainer Freddie Roach worked on improving De La Hoya's speed and ring generalship, hoping to limit Mayweather's escape routes.

"There's one thing that people don't know about me -- when somebody fights fast, I convert myself into that," De La Hoya said. "I think people are going to be surprised that I can match his speed, or do even better. We knew early on that you have to challenge Mayweather."

If the fight goes the distance, Mayweather believes De La Hoya will get tired, citing his history of late-round exhaustion. De La Hoya trained for the fight at sea level in Puerto Rico, and Mayweather thinks his higher-altitude training in Las Vegas will serve him better.

"He probably would have got tired later, but now he's going to get tired earlier," Mayweather said. "Don't be surprised if I stop him. He's already showed he's a quitter against (Bernard) Hopkins. He already showed he gets fatigued."

The crowd will be dotted with celebrities and past champions in seats currently re-selling for the highest prices ever reached.

The most conflicted spectator will be Floyd Mayweather Sr., resting uncomfortably in seats provided by De La Hoya, his longtime pupil. Though the elder Mayweather still feels loyalty to the Golden Boy, he won't root against his estranged son, either.

Although De La Hoya wants a win to prove he still can beat the best and add to his legacy at the age of 34, Mayweather needs the victory to back up his chatter and affirm his unofficial status as the world's pound-for-pound king.

"I'm the excitement in the fight," Mayweather said. "They say I don't put on a show. I can't help it if I'm that good, that I can dominate opponents like that. And they're going to see a show, I promise that."

Updated on Saturday, May 5, 2007 3:29 am EDT

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TodTango 05-06-07 12:12 AM

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It was a Mayweather type fight. Stayed in the center and had Oscar eat left hand to the body, right hand to the head. Split decision was official. I don't agree, I felt Mayweather should of won it unanimously.

Pound-for-pound the most exciting fighter in the ring today is a Filipino named Manny Pacquiao. Pac-E-Ow or Pac-Man will be the best fighter pound-for-pound should Mayweather retire. :fight

DaVinci 05-06-07 12:25 AM

I told you! I felt Mayweather was going to dominate the fight from beginning to end. No way De La Hoya came close to beating Mayweather. It shouldn't have even been a split decision. I think that judge gave it to De La Hoya because it builds drama for another fight. Anyone who saw De La Hoya win this fight must have a real soft spot for Oscar.

As for you Big Empty...I win the bet! I will have a sig for you by tomorrow!

TheLadiesMike 05-06-07 12:44 AM

Mayweather was way too conservative to say he dominated. He had a higher percentage but he stayed back. His one-and-done punching is not the way to dominate.

DaVinci 05-06-07 12:47 AM

Yea De La Hoya won some rounds, but Mayweather picked him apart. By the 8th Mayweather figured him out. Jab to the body, then quick right hook to the head. Oscar didnt do anything to combat that. Even though Oscar threw more punches, most of them came in those barrages I told you about. The crowd, which was easily pro-oscar, may have influenced oscar barrages, because none of them didnt much damage.

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Originally Posted by TheLadiesMike (Post 1093681)
Mayweather was way too conservative to say he dominated. He had a higher percentage but he stayed back. His one-and-done punching is not the way to dominate.

Boxing has changed so much that you do what is effective and scores you rounds. Not by trying to knock someone out. That is why I respect Pacquiao so much. That guy just seems like he wants to fight and it doesnt matter if he gets hit as well.

Big Empty...here ya go my man!!!!

Your new avatar...

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and your new sig...

DaVinci is all-knowing! DaVinci is my Daddy!

ENJOY!!!! :evil

Krycek1 05-06-07 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaVinci (Post 1093656)
I told you! I felt Mayweather was going to dominate the fight from beginning to end. No way De La Hoya came close to beating Mayweather. It shouldn't have even been a split decision. I think that judge gave it to De La Hoya because it builds drama for another fight. Anyone who saw De La Hoya win this fight must have a real soft spot for Oscar.

As for you Big Empty...I win the bet! I will have a sig for you by tomorrow!

lol, Even Mayweather knew he didn't "dominate". Steven A. Smith was the biggest pro Mayweather ESPN fan out there, and he gave a 6-4 (& 2 either way) scorecard.

Art Vandalay 05-06-07 01:13 AM

that fight blew. if dlh doesnt chase him, we might not have seen a fight. neither fighter ever really hurt, although i still believe dlh is stronger and has better power shot, no drama, it was like watching sparring practice for each, sh1t the 24-7 special had more action. why see a rematch?

mayweahter sr said it best with the point system if you like punches in bunches you would have picked oscar if you like one and done, one and move, you pick mayweather

TRslick81 05-06-07 01:14 AM

I had the fight even after 8 rounds really a close contest


Then in the 9-12th rounds DelaHoya quit firing the jab was far less active and effective with his punches and was clearly out boxed in the center of the ring .Oscar was the aggressor but wasnt able to really hurt mayweather .Overall i had the pretty boy taking 7 outta 12 rounds .

Ok fight but not the greatest neither fighter could really hurt each other with floyd landing the stiffer more accurate punches down the stretch

Krycek1 05-06-07 01:21 AM

Are they going to show a replay of the fight on free HBO HD?

TRslick81 05-06-07 01:25 AM

they should they always do should be this coming weekend

Art Vandalay 05-06-07 01:29 AM

^^i had it close also, i said to myself if oscar can put together 2 more good rounds, we might have a draw, but he stopped jabbing. honestly i would not have chased him, made him come to me, floyd is a counter puncher and obvious dlh could take his punch and defende well most of time, i doubt floyd would be standing if dlh was able to actually plant and get in a left hook, when they got close oscar was too straight up to land a good power shot.

but for all the sh1t talking to hype it up, didnt do much, where was the show boating or attitude.

hell yahoo sports also had it a draw.

Gervin Rules 05-06-07 03:27 AM

Mayweather thought he was on Dancing With The Stars. He didn't want to fight. DLH should have just kept throwing and gone through him.

TexasPandaMama 05-06-07 12:55 PM

I can't believe Albert talked me into paying for this!
I would expect to see at least a little blood; nothing.
I would expect to see someone get there butt whooped; nothing.
There should be a blood clause and only have to pay half price for a crappy fight after all that hype.
However, I was a bit surprised to see that Mayweather win. He seemed to be only on the defense about 90% of the time.
Overall....... very disapointed.

Big Empty 05-06-07 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaVinci (Post 1093656)
I told you! I felt Mayweather was going to dominate the fight from beginning to end. No way De La Hoya came close to beating Mayweather. It shouldn't have even been a split decision. I think that judge gave it to De La Hoya because it builds drama for another fight. Anyone who saw De La Hoya win this fight must have a real soft spot for Oscar.

As for you Big Empty...I win the bet! I will have a sig for you by tomorrow!

I'm a good sport. I had mayweather winning 7 rounds to 5. I don't understand why Oscar never used his jab. He coulda easily won a few more rounds and the fight had he used his jab that always does. He and Roach had a bad game plan. I hope there is a rematch. Mayweathers D is awesome. Oscar coulda landed his jab all night though.

Art Vandalay 05-06-07 10:56 PM

^^^i think aslo. he stopped jabbing, then his answer was i dont know wasnt a night for the jab, what? thats your style what the hell? sometimes leads me to believe in some of these fights he doesnt really care anymore.

all i know is that fight sucked.

rjv 05-07-07 08:54 AM

the real winner of this fight was UFC. de la hoya needs to just stick to full time promoting and mayweather needs to fight a real opponent like winky wright or bernard hopkins. truth is that neither one of these guys could hold a candle to leonard, hagler, hearns, arguello, duran, sanchez even john "the beast" mugabe (sp.?). at least then the boxers delivered. what a scam! good thing i did not pay for this waste of time.


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