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Old 08-02-10, 01:01 PM
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Best Spurs of all time?

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Old 08-02-10, 01:26 PM
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Good list, but Artis Gilmore doesn't get anymore respect here than he does in HOF voting.
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Old 08-02-10, 01:58 PM
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Good list but I think I would substitute Tony where Manu is. Tony's been a 3 time All Star (I can see a few more in his future) and a Finals MVP. Manu's been a great player for us but he hasn't accomplished as much as some of those other players on the list.
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Old 08-02-10, 02:14 PM
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I like Sean, but I don't think he's in the top 5.
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Old 08-02-10, 02:21 PM
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Sucks that this article has to say that Ginobili is one of the best 6th men to ever play the game. If it wasn't for his unselfishness he wouldn't be coming off the bench. I'm sure he would have made more all-star games if he was a starter but voters hold that against him. He was very close or even should have had that MVP in '05. So most people would say it's close, but I think Manu is more talented and cluth that TP. Manu is does it all.
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I agree about Manu-- but he's difficult to evaluate because he just doesn't play the number of minutes or games that other guys of his productivity do. His stats are not eye-popping. His plays are, though, and he does whatever it takes to win.
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Old 08-02-10, 02:37 PM
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I like Sean, but I don't think he's in the top 5.

Agreed. Sean was a nice player but he never lived up to his billing coming out of college. Entering the league he was the leading scorer in the history of the PAC-10. While he only played 5 yrs for the Spurs, Larry Kenon is more deserving of the 5th spot than Sean. Definitely should have his jersey in the rafters.
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Agreed. Sean was a nice player but he never lived up to his billing coming out of college. Entering the league he was the leading scorer in the history of the PAC-10. While he only played 5 yrs for the Spurs, Larry Kenon is more deserving of the 5th spot than Sean. Definitely should have his jersey in the rafters.
I'll give it to Sean. 2 time All Star and a ring with the Spurs.

TP has better stats and more rings, but Sean played on worse teams - and he's a homer now, so im going that way.
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is it wrong for me to suggest Bruce Bowen should've gotten a nod over Sean?

our whole defensive mindset (besides the 99 title) started with Duncan and Bowen. what Bruce did for us was really underrated and he was a huge part of our success overall
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Old 08-02-10, 04:14 PM
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By Position

Robinson
Duncan
Elliot
Gervin
Parker

Bench:
Manu (SG)
Bowen (SF)
Larry Kenon (PF)
Alvin Robertson (PG)
Artis Gilmore (C)
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Old 08-02-10, 04:42 PM
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I'll give it to Sean. 2 time All Star and a ring with the Spurs.

TP has better stats and more rings, but Sean played on worse teams - and he's a homer now, so im going that way.
Sean unquestionably gets the homer nod from many people.
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Old 08-02-10, 06:42 PM
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is it wrong for me to suggest Bruce Bowen should've gotten a nod over Sean?

our whole defensive mindset (besides the 99 title) started with Duncan and Bowen. what Bruce did for us was really underrated and he was a huge part of our success overall
I'd say so-- though if he had actually won the DPOY award then it would be a no-brainer rather than a close judgment call.
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Old 08-02-10, 08:16 PM
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He may have turned out to be crazy! But not to mention Alvin Robertson is just wrong. TD, DR, GG, MG, AR! When he played for the Spurs his defense is the only thing that kept the Spurs in those games. I just imagine how good we would have been in 89 had they traded Willie Anderson instead of Alvin. I think we would have beaten Portland in that series. Just my opinion.
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really poorly written piece imo
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I'm not big into these type of arguments. The Spurs only have 4 or 5 players in their history that would hold their own against other teams "best ever" players: Gervin, Robinson, Duncan, Manu and TP. And the last two are really questionable.
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I'm not big into these type of arguments. The Spurs only have 4 or 5 players in their history that would hold their own against other teams "best ever" players: Gervin, Robinson, Duncan, Manu and TP. And the last two are really questionable.
i think you have to put those 2 because of what they contributed to the titles they won (Manu in 05, Tony in 07). but that's why i think Bruce should get the nod over Sean. yeah Sean played on poor teams, but Bowen put us over the top. reasons i think Bruce should be mentioned over him is the intangibles he did for us:

-he played all those games (forget what his record was) before he got suspended for that Chris Paul incident
-he played against the other team's best player and guarded him every time, every game
-he did something that we couldn't do with Elliott: he guarded every position in the game. it didn't matter what position the player played, he played defense and brought them down to his level. the guys he guarded are uncanny: Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Paul, Marion, Lebron, Melo, Wade, Ray Allen, etc
-he also helped out the community a lot like the other players
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Old 08-03-10, 02:54 PM
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Elliott was an underrated defender. He did many more things that Bruce couldn't do than vice versa...scored on his own, slashed and dunked, better passer, 2 time all-star, on the floor in crunch time (both ends). Just about as good at the three as Bruce. There should not even be a question about this...and I love Bruce.

Here's another reason why Sean is a top five Spur. He sucked with the Pistons. He belonged with the Spurs. Couldn't ply his trade anywhere else.

Just my opinion the list goes
TD
Ice
DRob
Manu
Sean

TP and Mr. Quadruple Double are close. Avery, Bruce and Artis would round up top 10
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Spurs only have two players in their HISTORY to have a Finals MVP award (one of the highest honors in the Sport)---and Tp isn't on the list..at all... ????
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Not that anyone cares, but that article was riddles with poor grammar, spelling, and typos. Painful to read.
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His buddy leaves Manu and Robertson off of the top 10!! ( I wonder if Kenyon Martin was named after number 6)

Best San Antonio Spurs players of all time - by Steven Mitchell - Helium

Best San Antonio Spurs players of all time
by Steven Mitchell

Choosing the best San Antonio Spurs players of all time is a difficult task, especially considering their recent history that includes four NBA titles in nine years. The Spurs were originally an ABA franchise before joining the NBA in 1976.

Let the arguments begin, as here is a list of the 10 best San Antonio Spurs players of all time.

10. Mike Mitchell: Mitchell averaged over 20 points per game during his tenure as a Spur from 1981 to 1988. He is the sixth leading scorer in franchise history and ninth in offensive rebounds. Mitchell was also a member of the 1981 All-Star Team.

9. James Silas: Silas played for the Spurs from 1973 to 1981. He is fifth all-time on the franchise scoring list and seventh in assists. Silas was a two-time ABA all-star.

8. Artis Gilmore: Nicknamed the "A-Train," the seven-foot two-inch big man was one of the most impressive rebounders in the history of basketball. Gilmore played for five different teams across the NBA and ABA and was a member of the Spurs for five seasons. Gilmore was a two-time all-star while a member of the Spurs and is sixth on the franchise's rebounding list, despite playing only five seasons.

7. Avery Johnson: Johnson was the point guard for the first ever NBA champion Spurs team in 1998-1999. He is the franchise leader in assists and also ranks in the top ten in points, steals and minutes played.

6. Larry Kenyon: Kenyon was a five time all-star in his career and a feared scorer, rebounder and defender. He ranks in the top ten all-time in franchise history in points, steals and rebounds.

5. Sean Elliot: Elliot was a member of the first ever Spurs championship team in 1998-1999. Elliot was a do-it-all type of player that filled in the gaps for the stars on the team such as David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Elliot is in the top ten in franchise history in points, rebounds and three-point field goals made. Elliot played all 12 of his seasons for the Spurs before retiring after the 2000-2001 season.

4. Tony Parker: Parker was the starting point guard for two of the Spurs NBA Championships and was the MVP of the 2006-2007 NBA Finals. Parker is a three-time all-star and is third in franchise history in assists and fourth in points.

3. David Robinson: Robinson, despite having to wait two years to begin his NBA career due to naval service, became one of the dominant big men in the history of the NBA. He was largely responsible for the resurgence of the Spurs after several sub-par seasons that landed them Robinson with the number one overall draft pick in 1987. Robinson is the all-time franchise leader in steals and blocked shots and ranks in the top five in many other categories. Robinson was inducted into the NBA Hall of Fame in 2009.

2. George Gervin: George "The Ice Man" Gervin is the leading scorer in the history of the San Antonio Spurs franchise. He is also third in franchise history in rebounds, blocks, games and minutes played. Gervin was one of the most exciting players of his era and one of the most dominant scorers in the history of the game. Gervin was inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame in 1996.

1. Tim Duncan: As great as Gervin and Robinson were, Duncan is the clear number one in the history of the spurs. Duncan has been involved in all four Spurs' NBA titles and was the NBA Finals MVP in three of those victories. Duncan was the 1997 Rookie of the Year and a two-time NBA MVP winner to go along with 12 all-star game appearances. Duncan is a sure-fire, first-ballot hall of famer.
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Elliott was an underrated defender. He did many more things that Bruce couldn't do than vice versa...scored on his own, slashed and dunked, better passer, 2 time all-star, on the floor in crunch time (both ends). Just about as good at the three as Bruce. There should not even be a question about this...and I love Bruce.
i'd agree with that assessment if this was a convo about the best player between the 2, but we're talking about the best Spurs aren't we?

even if Bruce could create his own shot, that wouldn't have helped him in our offense because the fact he became a spot up 3 point shooter was what we needed from him. we already had Tim, Tony, and Manu creating their own shots, we just needed shooters.

i'm just saying this to add on to the argument of TP being mentioned since he won titles and had an MVP trophy because Bruce has the same number of rings as Tony and he's came up in the Finals MVP talk with his defense on Lebron.

i think a top 5 is too difficult to come up with unless standards/requirements are drawn up. it's easier to name the Top 2 Spurs: Duncan and Robinson (in that order)

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i think a top 5 is too difficult to come up with unless standards/requirements are drawn up. it's easier to name the Top 2 Spurs: Duncan and Robinson (in that order)

I thought it was just as easy to name Duncan then Iceman...then I remembered this...


Gotta love the Manu two-step around MJ!!
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even if Bruce could create his own shot, that wouldn't have helped him in our offense because the fact he became a spot up 3 point shooter was what we needed from him. we already had Tim, Tony, and Manu creating their own shots, we just needed shooters.
Well, you'd just said it yourself: Bruce was a role player.

Of course, I agree that he shined as a defensive specialist and he has been consistent behind three point line. He has done so much for Spurs that he earned his place amongst the best Spurs players.

However, if my memory served me right, Sean could easily carry a large share of the Spurs offence with ease while STILL guarding the opponent's best perimeter player during his prime. We are talking about a much more complete player here.

I still remember the time when he could out-score the entire opponent team in a quarter with a variety of moves that would completely change the momentum of the game. Even during the short span when he played alongside both Robinson and Duncan, he's consistent jumper allowed him to score without getting into the way of both big men. As already mentioned, as a better free-throw shooter he could also stay in the game at the end without been substituted constantly.

OK, I might be biased because I followed Sean longer than Bruce but Sean always have a special spot as a Spurs, at least in my heart. I always appreciated his desire to return to Spurs after an one year stay with Pistons and I always felt moved by his drive to play with two bad kidneys during Spurs first championship run.

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Manu should be up there. And the fourth spot isn´t overrating him at all.
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I thought it was just as easy to name Duncan then Iceman...then I remembered this...





Gotta love the Manu two-step around MJ!!


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