Anthony Tolliver Video

[SPUROFTHAMOMENT]

Hey y'all. I just wanted to share this video I found, not sure if anyone else posted it , if so mods please remove.
I went to google and searched for Anthony Tolliver under Video and the 1st entry was him getting posterized by Randal Falker, but this was I thought was nice.

I hope he can bring some of this to the Spurs:

YouTube - Creighton Men's Basketball TOLLIVER

I wish him well. If anyone can find more "good" videos post them for us to see. I don't know about this Tolliver guy, but he's been shooting pretty good in SL.




Also, with his signing we have 12 guys under contract (even though it might not be guaranteed), so that's 3 roster spots left if he makes the team.

What are our chances of having him, PLUS Hill, Gist and Hairston fill the final spots, instead of Finley? I don't know what to think about that.

[angelbelow]

i watched a few SL games but i must admit i dont recall noticing him on the court. i definitely liked what i saw on the vboxscores but after watching this clip, hes got a nice build. seems very strong and i really think with a great deal of work he could develop a strong low post game with the ideal level of elton brand or david west and the more realistic level of brandon bass.

[ro_50]

At Creighton, he was a solid 4 guy in Dana Altman's system. He played hard and with passion.

He's not a small forward but has improved the range on his jump shot a lot since his college days.

He has a chance to stick with one of the final roster spots. But it's up to him to perform good enough to stay on the roster.

[Amente]

Originally Posted by ro_50:

At Creighton, he was a solid 4 guy in Dana Altman's system. He played hard and with passion. He's not a small forward but has improved the range on his jump shot a lot since his college days.

Not sure who gave him the advice but it seems he's made an effort to see if he could play some 3 as well because he's lost weight and slimmed down a bit, worked on some other aspects of his game, etc and in his interview yesterday spoke of how he going to try and help the Spurs by playing multi-posiitons for them.

[ro_50]

Originally Posted by Amente:

Not sure who gave him the advice but it seems he's made an effort to see if he could play some 3 a swell because he's lost weight and slimmed down a bit, worked on some other aspects of his game, etc and in his interview yesterday spoke of how he going to try and help the Spurs by playing multi-posiitons for them.

After I typed this, I looked at how he looks today versus a couple of years ago when he was at Creighton -- he's looks slimmer and in much better shape than he did in college.

So you are right, maybe the Spurs train of thought is for him to play the 3 and 4.

It's going to be interesting to see how this goes for him and the Spurs.

[ray_cortinasjr.]

Originally Posted by ro_50:

After I typed this, I looked at how he looks today versus a couple of years ago when he was at Creighton -- he's looks slimmer and in much better shape than he did in college. So you are right, maybe the Spurs train of thought is for him to play the 3 and 4. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes for him and the Spurs.

I've been saying all along that this guy looks like he can bring something to the team. I have a good feeling he's gonna make the team.

[theinswes]

Originally Posted by ro_50:

At Creighton, he was a solid 4 guy in Dana Altman's system. He played hard and with passion. He's not a small forward but has improved the range on his jump shot a lot since his college days. He has a chance to stick with one of the final roster spots. But it's up to him to perform good enough to stay on the roster.

i really have very low expectations of tolliver, considering his lack of reputation, etc. hopefully, he can come out, impress the team in training camp, and surprise us all by being solid. i really can't think of much just by watchin some summer league games. his numbers from the d-league are also extremely pedestrian, not sure if that is an indicator of anything.

he is clearly in much better shape having lost weight, based on that video. i do like hearing that he played the 4, because i've been wishing so much that we could get a sf who actually played like a big man, instead of a sg masquerading as a sf. basically, the difference in being able to post, bang, and grab rebounds is very significant and much needed for us. i've wanted a legit big forward for quite some time already, and sadly it looks like we had to look through the d-league/summer camp to find someone to fill that role, but i'll hope for the best.

[Jones]

He seems like a total mystery. The player he is now doesn't have much connection to whom he was in college.

I'm curious if he has any athletic talent. Also, does anyone know much about him from the old days. Was he actually a competent rebounder and low post defender? Youtubes of him dunking on total scrubs won't translate to the NBA.

[Amente]

Originally Posted by theinswes:

i really have very low expectations of tolliver, considering his lack of reputation, etc. hopefully, he can come out, impress the team in training camp, and surprise us all by being solid. i really can't think of much just by watchin some summer league games. his numbers from the d-league are also extremely pedestrian, not sure if that is an indicator of anything.

Apparently, he's been working out and with the Spurs for most of the summer and way before summer league began so the Spurs have been evaluating Tolliver for some time now.

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[jscarlett]

^^ Molding him into the player they want him to be...

[SPUROFTHAMOMENT]

Originally Posted by Amente:

Apparently, he's been working out and with the Spurs for most of the summer and way before summer league began so the Spurs have been evaluating Tolliver for some time now. .

That's awesome! I'm glad we signed him early before some Euro team offered him $10 million. LoL

He really seems like he believes he can contribute, I like his optimism. He definitely has opportunity.

[deibero]

in my opinion, from what i've seen, and i saw him playing live in vegas, is that tolliver is very similar to brandon bass of the mavs...they're both a little undersize pf at 6'8, and both have sweet jumpers.. the only thing is that tolliver has probably more range on his shot...theyre also solid rebounders

the other thing is that tolliver in creighton was more of a power player, now he sometimes hangs too much by the 3pt line, while bass attacks a little more the basket and the offensive glass and goes more to the ft line...

basically if this comparision is true, i will be more than happy with a bass type player!

[Gespinoza]

Hopefully he will work out. Look at David West numbers his first years. Now he has turned into this amazing player out of no where with hard work.

I am hoping we can mold that type of player.

[TRslick81]

he was also a nice shot blocker in college so thats an added bonus

i cant help but wonder if both tolliver and gist can make the team being they play the same position and fill a similar need...

Neway if AT can improve his d and show he can guard some of the 3's&4's and continue nailing outside jumpers he might just carve a niche on this team

[srrumsey]

yeah he mentioned he thought he could guard multiple positions. dont see it happening though. unless he plans on d'ing up some centers

[ro_50]

Originally Posted by deibero:

in my opinion, from what i've seen, and i saw him playing live in vegas, is that tolliver is very similar to brandon bass of the mavs...they're both a little undersize pf at 6'8, and both have sweet jumpers.. the only thing is that tolliver has probably more range on his shot...theyre also solid rebounders the other thing is that tolliver in creighton was more of a power player, now he sometimes hangs too much by the 3pt line, while bass attacks a little more the basket and the offensive glass and goes more to the ft line... basically if this comparision is true, i will be more than happy with a bass type player!

That's a fair comparison and who knows, with Tolliver being slimmer now than he was back at Creighton, maybe he can develop a drive to the basket ability.

[srrumsey]

Originally Posted by ro_50:

That's a fair comparison and who knows, with Tolliver being slimmer now than he was back at Creighton, maybe he can develop a drive to the basket ability.

that would be nice, but i dont think he is near the athlete Brandon Bass is. in college he was a three and four and has put on weight for the nba. vice versa for tolliver. tolliver played 4 and 5 in college. doesnt have the explosive first step like bass. not near the ahtlete bass his and doesnt have hops like bass either. much better stroke though. bass couldnt shoot at all in college.

he is saying he is going to play two positions. 4 is where he needs to be. not a good enough rebounder to play the center spot and not big enough. lacks the agility to play out on the perimiter without just giving a small forward way too much space to operate. without hand checking on the peremiter like the days of old, he will get picked on and abused quite often if he is expected to check a SF night in and out

[srrumsey]

Originally Posted by Gespinoza:

Hopefully he will work out. Look at David West numbers his first years. Now he has turned into this amazing player out of no where with hard work. I am hoping we can mold that type of player.

david west was an outstanding college player. as a sophomore, he avergaed about 18 ppg and 11 rbpg. avergaed 18 and 10 his junior year, and put up over 20 a game and 11.8 rbpg as a senior. selected 18th in first round.

Just took him a while to learn the ropes. he was a good player his second year in the league and has just progessed ever since. he didnt become amazing out of nowhere.

and dont hold your breathe hoping Tolliver turns into a David West caliber player (not gonna happen).

[theinswes]

Originally Posted by srrumsey:

david west was an outstanding college player. as a sophomore, he avergaed about 18 ppg and 11 rbpg. avergaed 18 and 10 his junior year, and put up over 20 a game and 11.8 rbpg as a senior. selected 18th in first round. Just took him a while to learn the ropes. he was a good player his second year in the league and has just progessed ever since. he didnt become amazing out of nowhere. and dont hold your breathe hoping Tolliver turns into a David West caliber player (not gonna happen).

very good point. we really gotta keep our expectations reasonable with the guys were getting. many of the late round/2nd round steals were really good in college, like west, boozer, or arenas who had shown he had talent. tolliver put up very average/unimpressive numbers in the d-league, so i really woudn't expect a major impact player by any means.

[srrumsey]

Originally Posted by theinswes:

very good point. we really gotta keep our expectations reasonable with the guys were getting. many of the late round/2nd round steals were really good in college, like west, boozer, or arenas who had shown he had talent. tolliver put up very average/unimpressive numbers in the d-league, so i really woudn't expect a major impact player by any means.

epectations must be tamed a bit. all the FO and us as fans should hoping for is a better version of bonner --> a big who can hit the three, with the kicker being he can actually play a little defense and not be such a liability. is he capable of guarding a power foward better than bonner? YES!!!!!! that is all that we can ask for and should ask for out of this guy

[srrumsey]

Originally Posted by Jones:

He seems like a total mystery. The player he is now doesn't have much connection to whom he was in college. I'm curious if he has any athletic talent. Also, does anyone know much about him from the old days. Was he actually a competent rebounder and low post defender? Youtubes of him dunking on total scrubs won't translate to the NBA.

competent defender back in the day. rebounding was sub par. seemed to be a guy who got rebounds if they came to his immediate vicinty. he wasnt a rodman or rebounder who was good at anticipating where it would come off and go get it (i.e., if it didnt come to him, he didnt get it). intensity in summer league seems much improved as opposed to college years. he is defintiely playing with a fire and more drive.

athletic talent and agility is on the low side, but he is moving better with the weight trimmed a bit. that is why i think it is a pipe dream for him to play the SF position.

i know nothing of his nbdl experiance to speak of.