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Maybe I'm just hating but I REALLY don't want Fin on our team. I'd rather take just about anyone from the summer league and give them a shot.
As far as I'm concerned, Finley is shot. He's done and I don't want to see him in a Spurs uni next year.
I don't like what he brings to the table as a player. Now don't get me wrong he seems like a good guy, character guy, doesn't cause any problems, but when the chips are down I don't think he brings it.
Just my two cents.
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I don't like what he brings to the table as a player. Now don't get me wrong he seems like a good guy, character guy, doesn't cause any problems, but when the chips are down I don't think he brings it.
Just my two cents.
Yeah the guy who hit shots to give us the leads with under a minute to go in games 3 against Sac and game 4 against Dallas in 2006 doesn't bring it when the chips are down. Same for the guy who hit HUGE 4th quarter shots for us in 2007. And the guy who, without his shot, there would be no Tim Duncan 3 and we may have not gotten as far in last year's playoffs (let alone outa the first round.)
I understand that he's old and struggled last year but everytime someone claims that Finley isn't clutch or doesn't bring it "when the chips are down", i question if they were watching the same games I was.
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Many have seen the turning point of the Western Conference Spurs-Suns semifinals last season as the Game 4 brawl and suspensions. But that could have been the best thing that happened for Suns fans -- when the series ended, everybody was talking about how Amare and Diaw left the bench. Nobody was talking about how Tim Duncan took away home-court advantage in Game 1.
Yeah that's the same Finley who disappeared against the Lakers last year and I guarantee won't hold up this year, in a year where Manu probably won't be 100%.
Finley is a ONE DIMENSIONAL player. He doesn't play good D. He can't get to the basket. If his shot isn't falling, what exactly does he bring us?
Unlike Horry and Barry, Finley has to be hitting his shot to be effective at THIS POINT in his career. He's basically Steve Smith. Whoopie.
But hey I guess that's why we have Roger Mason Jr.
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Yeah the guy who hit shots to give us the leads with under a minute to go in games 3 against Sac and game 4 against Dallas in 2006 doesn't bring it when the chips are down. Same for the guy who hit HUGE 4th quarter shots for us in 2007. And the guy who, without his shot, there would be no Tim Duncan 3 and we may have not gotten as far in last year's playoffs (let alone outa the first round.)
I understand that he's old and struggled last year but everytime someone claims that Finley isn't clutch or doesn't bring it "when the chips are down", i question if they were watching the same games I was.
You're kinda hitting around what I eluded to. About how when a Spurs player struggles some, in this case Fin, people are ready to forget about all the times he did good and ship him off to the retirement home or some other locale.
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Oh yeah and Spurs7794, I'm not trying to pick a fight.
But I do think it's funny that you and I are posting (both from 2002 and both with few posts)!
Strong but silent types eh?
Yeah i reread my post and i sounded more condescending than i intended to. My bad, I wasnt trying to pick a fight either.
And yeah, I usually just enjoy reading all the stuff on this forum...i get too lazy to actually post most of the time.
As for Finley, I wholeheartedly agree that he's one dimensional. I just think alot of people don't remember how well he played that 1 dimension his first two years here.
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Many have seen the turning point of the Western Conference Spurs-Suns semifinals last season as the Game 4 brawl and suspensions. But that could have been the best thing that happened for Suns fans -- when the series ended, everybody was talking about how Amare and Diaw left the bench. Nobody was talking about how Tim Duncan took away home-court advantage in Game 1.
In this matter, I think people were looking for Horry and Finley to leave and keep Barry. Barry had a super year when he wasn't injured.
Which was what 27 games or so? Thats not much of a year, hell not even 1/2 a year. I know he played well when not injured, but seriously he was hurt most of the year and that could happen again with his age being a factor. I loved Brent, but Mason being here will not be a drop off IMO, he is younger, a good shooter and good on D.
Originally Posted by spurs7794:
Yeah the guy who hit shots to give us the leads with under a minute to go in games 3 against Sac and game 4 against Dallas in 2006 doesn't bring it when the chips are down. Same for the guy who hit HUGE 4th quarter shots for us in 2007. And the guy who, without his shot, there would be no Tim Duncan 3 and we may have not gotten as far in last year's playoffs (let alone outa the first round.)
I understand that he's old and struggled last year but everytime someone claims that Finley isn't clutch or doesn't bring it "when the chips are down", i question if they were watching the same games I was.
Co sign FINLEY has hit clutch shots here in key situations! That three against PHX was HUGE this year to send it to OT (If not PHX gets up and beats us last year or takes it 7 IMO). Finley is unfairly hated on at times in here, he has hit some huge shots here like you pointed out. This is a great post.
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I vote Finley Off the island. He has done great things for us.. mostly when he is hitting his shot. and he is clutch for sure. But we have a far better team with a guy who is not only a shooter, slow on defense and aging fast. Maybe with a player who can contribute in more ways, we dont need a last second shot in new york to beat the freakin knicks!
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I vote Finley Off the island. He has done great things for us.. mostly when he is hitting his shot. and he is clutch for sure. But we have a far better team with a guy who is not only a shooter, slow on defense and aging fast. Maybe with a player who can contribute in more ways, we dont need a last second shot in new york to beat the freakin knicks!
okay... meant to say "we have a better team with a player who is not only a shooter, better defensively, and contributes in many ways...."
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Some things Mason won't provide are leadership, a superb knowledge of the game, an ability to move the ball and run the offense, and a colossal sense of humor. I could be wrong about some things, but I doubt Mason will bring the Barry wit, el contusion, ma and nu. It goes on and on. I really liked the things Barry brought to the team but it's hard to deal with not having solid security, I don't think Barry ever quite had that here.
Maybe with a player who can contribute in more ways, we dont need a last second shot in new york to beat the freakin knicks!
...or a guy who saves us in Game 1 of the playoffs. (i know you admitted he's clutch but still, pretending the best thing he did was beat the knicks last year is wrong. Plus, without that shot against NY, we might not have had HCA against Phoenix).
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Many have seen the turning point of the Western Conference Spurs-Suns semifinals last season as the Game 4 brawl and suspensions. But that could have been the best thing that happened for Suns fans -- when the series ended, everybody was talking about how Amare and Diaw left the bench. Nobody was talking about how Tim Duncan took away home-court advantage in Game 1.
If this is the case then why did he choose to return to the Spurs last year over another team? I believe the Rockets were interested then as well.
He has young children that were in school. They weren't going to move. So kids and Mom stay in SA.
He has a hot wife he'd probably like to see more than once a month.
He couldn't sign with the Spurs for 30 days. A month with family.
And since he'd already been paid his entire salary, any contract signed is gravy.
Did I mention the hot wife he got to spend time with?
And the kids were at school during the day, leaving him at home all alone with the hot wife.
In other words --
Any Team other than SA:
Leave family. Including hot wife.
Rehab calf with new trainer.
Weeks in hotel.
SA:
Don't leave family.
30 day vacation as playoffs loom.
Hot wife to assist in 'rehab' during day.
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Dang, thank God for Tim. Tim made everyone better.
Maybe he was giving Pop one more chance to give him some decent playing time...............which only seemed to happen when the Spurs were down by 20 points or more.
i really think people are overrating Brent's performance in the playoffs this past year. granted he did some things, but he was hurt. would he have done all the things he did if he played a full season ? he didn't haveminutes in those legs like the rest of the team. we're going to see a different Bones in Houston when he's backing up T-Mac or Alston. those legs are gonna be stone by season's end
I totally agree with BoSpur's original post - losing Barry is killing me, and I never understood it. But know thatamente pointed out there was a rift with the FO, it makes sense that Brent wouldn't stay.
I'll go to my grave feeling that Pop didn't play him enough. I mean, did Pop expect him to be a defensive stopper? Like BoSpur said, Barry was the one guy who could always hit a three. He wasn't streaky - he could always hit the three with great consistency and a high percentage, even miraculously so in last year's playoffs after coming back from the injury. I thought his performance in the playoffs would cement his value and position on our team. When he got playing time and enough shots (i.e. if Finley wasn't jacking up bricks that would otherwise be shots for Brent), he provided us with a 4th scorer who had the ability to score 15-18, even 20 points on a given night. He scored over 20 in one game in the Western Conference Finals. How badly did we need that?
It's painful thinking about all those minutes Finley played these past couple of years while Brent was riding the pine. Finley bricking jumper after jumper, me cringing every time Finley put the ball on the floor. I'll never get it. Brent could make plays for others and he could hit threes until the cows come home, warm or not, limping or not. Brent was just misused.
I hope Mason does well, but I view Mason as a Finley replacement, not a Barry replacement. I know we're old, but my complaint was about Finley and Horry, not about Barry. Barry can also play back-up point guard really well -- but that's yet another thing Pop didn't let him do. Instead, he went with the incomparable Jacques Vaughn.
Maybe he was giving Pop one more chance to give him some decent playing time...............which only seemed to happen when the Spurs were down by 20 points or more.
There u go!
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