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Old 07-03-09, 10:01 AM
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Wait until we see what happens in LA with Artest. When Kobe is off the floor, or having either of his off nights, you'll watch Artest dribble, dribble, dribble into coverage and put up a bad shot. I watched it all year in Houston. Adelman did what he could, whether private or public. Nothing stopped him, when he thought he should be the number one option. As difficult as it is to believe, the man is very stubborn.
His defense against any quickness is just about gone.
I absolutely didn't want to see him in SA. He's living on his past reputation. He's not a great defender anymore. He's not a good shooter. Streaky, yes. Good, no. Leave him for LA. I think they got worse in the Artest-Ariza swap.
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Old 07-03-09, 10:23 AM
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Jefferson is much better offensively, his shot selection is better, he shots better, he goes to line often. Defensively, it would be Artest, but not by much.

Artest is better value, but there is a reason Houston offered only one year and no team wants to pay him more than the MLE. He could be terrific for the Lakers, but he could also quit the team before the playoffs.
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Old 07-03-09, 11:01 AM
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y'all are all Nuts. You might as well give up watching basketball.

We haven't had 2 quality Bigs since David Robinson and we managed to win 2 championships. If we don't sign another Big, it will be because Pop and RC have confidence in Blair and Mahinmi.

I am starting to hope we don't sign anyone else to prove all of you panic stricken fans wrong!
honestly, you're living in the past here. first and foremost, 2005 tim duncan is not 2010 tim duncan - he can't compensate for deficiencies upfront the way he used to before. secondly, the past means nothing about the current state when you consider the other teams in the league and how the competition has stepped up. remember how everyone said our bench ok and we're not old? well look what happened when everyone not named tim or tony was exposed during these playoffs against hte freakin mavs no less. the past rings and 'championship experience' didn't mean crap when the players are just PHYSICALLY outmatched.

you really wanna go against the defending champs who have 2 legit 7 footers and a 6'10 do-everything matchup nightmare, with 33yr old tim duncan and 2 rookies?! blair has a long wingspan - the lakers centers are 5 inches taller and have just as long if not longer arms. we can't possibly go into this season w/ these 3 alone as our frontcourt, which is why the importance of getting a quality big man like sheed is so important now. w/ sheed and the youngsters, we have a tremendous blend of traits each guy can bring - toughness, knowledge & experience, size, rebounding, defense/offense, and athleticism.

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Old 07-03-09, 11:24 AM
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I take RJ, though the price difference is tough to swallow.

RJ plays with a lot more control. Artest suffers from bad shot selection a lot of times and he can be taken out of games mentally (though on the flip side his defense can take other guys out of the game also).

For locker room chemistry, it's RJ hands down of course. You never know what you're going to get with Ron-Ron.
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Old 07-03-09, 11:42 AM
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Artest can do more to defeat the Lakers right where he is better than he could on any of the other 29 teams. As for the Spurs, I think in the long run team-wise RJ is a much better piece to the puzzle. The center problem Pop and company will find a workable solution to before the first of November. Oh, and regarding Sheed, we would still need a "burly banger" or two if we got him.
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Old 07-03-09, 12:00 PM
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not only that, artest's body and strength, he could have easily played PF for us which would have helped out big time since we are so weak in the bigs department
artest can run sg sf pf ; i mean maybe not optimaly, but if needed, he has the body to.

jefferson is basically stuck at the 3 spot.

but lets take what we have and keep going
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Old 07-03-09, 12:19 PM
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thats assuming Artest would even consider coming to the spurs.....


RJ is the better investment, for the spurs because they could have waited for artest, and he would say no 9 out of 10 times.

LAL has something 29 other teams don't, a ring. thats what sold out Artest.
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Old 07-03-09, 01:02 PM
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not only that, artest's body and strength, he could have easily played PF for us which would have helped out big time since we are so weak in the bigs department
artest can run sg sf pf ; i mean maybe not optimaly, but if needed, he has the body to.

jefferson is basically stuck at the 3 spot.

but lets take what we have and keep going
Artest CAN play PF but I dare you to put him there full-time. He's easily one of the most overrated players in discussion. I like the guy but he's a chucker. Artest on the Spurs would only work if he bought in 100% to the team concept. Judging by his focus historically, I'm goin with RJ.
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Old 07-03-09, 06:41 PM
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thats assuming Artest would even consider coming to the spurs.....


RJ is the better investment, for the spurs because they could have waited for artest, and he would say no 9 out of 10 times.

LAL has something 29 other teams don't, a ring. thats what sold out Artest.
He wouldn't come to the Spurs unless they offered a crazy offer like full MLE and max years.
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