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Old 10-06-06, 08:31 AM
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one game dude.

he was horrible the whole year. besides, i don't have to prove my point, the spurs have already traded him once. if he was so great why did they want jr smith? jr smith is like a 6 ppg scorer...
They didn't REALLY want JR Smith as much as they wanted his contract and the cap and luxury tax flexibility.
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Old 10-06-06, 08:55 AM
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They didn't REALLY want JR Smith as much as they wanted his contract and the cap and luxury tax flexibility.

it's 6 of one or a half dozen of the other.

if he was as good as ppl say he is, why did they want flexibility?

maybe we could trade duncan to get some "flexibility".
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Old 10-06-06, 09:39 AM
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it's 6 of one or a half dozen of the other.

if he was as good as ppl say he is, why did they want flexibility?

maybe we could trade duncan to get some "flexibility".

that's the point.
They were basicly trading Barry for nothing but an ending contract.

There is also the point of how there were reasons Pop didn't really want D. Brown back either in 2005.
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Old 10-06-06, 10:15 AM
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that's the point.
They were basicly trading Barry for nothing but an ending contract.

There is also the point of how there were reasons Pop didn't really want D. Brown back either in 2005.

i'm a devin brown homer so i defend the guy, but you're right. i ultimately trust pop and if he didn't want him back so be it...
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Old 10-06-06, 11:10 AM
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i'm a devin brown homer so i defend the guy, but you're right. i ultimately trust pop and if he didn't want him back so be it...
i guess it's half of the story that Pop didn't want him back.
Spurs didn't want him back for the price he demanded.
(to also defend Devin, noone can blame a guy who always played for minimum comtracts, to look for some more money).
Devin finally signed with Utha for half of the MLE, quite more than the Spurs were willing to pay him.
for less money (wasn't there a report, that Spurs offered him a LLE like contract?) he would have been brought back.
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Old 10-07-06, 06:48 PM
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A chance to pick up an athletic sg/sf for pennies that Knows the system, loves the town, is a crowd favorite, and is still available. What is not to like about that deal.
Think about what you just said:

1) knows the system (may help win games)
2) loves the town (won't help win games)
3) is a crowd favorite (won't help win games)
4) is still available (won't help win games)

Ain't gonna happen.
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Old 10-07-06, 07:32 PM
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if we're gettin rid of beno, pick up devin. sliding barry to pg would be great.

Parker/Barry
Ginobili/DBrown
Bowen/Finley / HOoooRRaY
Duncan/Boner
Oberto/Elson/Butt

we'll have a backup at each spot. eric williams and jaquevaugn don't count.
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Old 10-09-06, 08:06 AM
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Think about what you just said:

1) knows the system (may help win games)

In Pops system of defense it will help win games. He also knows Pop and how not to get in the dog house cuz he has been there before and he has gotten out before. These matter.

2) loves the town (won't help win games)

So being unhappy with the town you are in makes you play better. When a guy isn't worried about how to get around the town, has friends on a team, & isn't a cancer, I guess it would not help a player play better or the team he is playing for.


Remember we are not talking about getting Devin for Starter or even 6-8 man minutes. He might just be situational and practice fodder. I am sure that he is better than Melvin whom we picked up last year.

3) is a crowd favorite (won't help win games)

I guess it is not OK to be a fan in the Spurs fans board.

4) is still available (won't help win games)

Who else is available right now for the minimum that is athletic, defensive minded (had defensive signs of being real good), who only left because of cap concerns and the fact that Devin had teams willing to pay way more, who has night were he shoots well but always plays D when he is not, can hit the 3 with a good percentage, has ice in his vain at crunch time, and is not a jerk?

Besides this comment was just a fans comment not an arguement for Devin's superiority over the rest of the fodder the Spurs brought in to training camp. But if you want that arguement then who has potential to be a better asset to the spurs?

Ain't gonna happen.
Why wont it happen? He started serveral games last year and for what ever reason did not hit it off with Sloan. There loss is going to be someone elses gain. Devin is not great but for the minimum and in a year when we already have 5 guys who are going to be learning the system, why not bring in a known quantity (who will be playing hard for a better contract) to help this team? He could have made a huge difference against Allas.

How smart is it to go to a post of a fan excited about a former player and just say essentially "stupid post" esp. when you bring nothing to the argument except your wrong and I'm obviously right?
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Old 10-11-06, 10:34 AM
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From today's SA EN.....

"The Spurs appear to have little interest in Brown, mostly because they are set at the big guard spot.

They also went to camp with three players — Melvin Sanders, Rich Melzer and Charles Lee — they like for their one non-guaranteed roster spot, presuming they opt to carry 15 players, which they are not obliged to do. "


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...e.30129b9.html
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Old 10-11-06, 11:39 AM
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How smart is it to go to a post of a fan excited about a former player and just say essentially "stupid post" esp. when you bring nothing to the argument except your wrong and I'm obviously right?
I didn't necessarily think it was a stupid post, nor do I believe you are wrong and I am right.

I'm just saying, that he knows the system is great. I have thought, and others here have suggested, that there were problems with Devin and Pop even before his back injury/surgery.

As far as the other stuff goes, hell George Gervin is a crowd favorite, loves the city and is available. Why not suit him up?

Maybe Devin is the best choice available. That is open to debate. I still think it won't happen, but hey, what do I know? I'm just a poster on SR!
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Old 10-11-06, 12:03 PM
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I have thought, and others here have suggested, that there were problems with Devin and Pop even before his back injury/surgery.
true, another quote from the article:

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The Spurs sometimes wished Brown had spent more offseason time in the gym than on some of his favorite tracks in and around town. Brown wasn't as regular at the Spurs' practice facility between seasons as some of his teammates.

Now Brown spends as much time in the gym as on the course, waiting for a call from his agent with good news about a new contract.

"I put in the work this summer that I hadn't in the past," Brown said, "because I knew how (new Warriors coach) Don Nelson wanted to play. To not get a chance to show any of that is the hardest thing to deal with right now."
if an average talented player like Devin refused to work out as hard and much as the other Spurs players and prefered to play golf instead, his chances to ever get considered by Pop again are very very small.
(and Devin's statement that he worked out harder this summer for the first time, because of Nelson, also doesn't exactly help to convince Pop IMO)
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