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One free-agent forward who might interest the Knicks is rugged Denver rebounder Reggie Evans, but he might impede the development of second-year Knicks forwards Channing Frye and David Lee, which is a priority for Thomas. If there's a major deal out there, it would have to be for Denver power forward Kenyon Martin. One NBA executive said the Nuggets are "desperate" to unload him and almost certainly could be forced to take Steve .Francis, who has three years worth $48.7 million left on his contract, if only because he costs so much less than Martin, who has five years left for $70.9 million. But Martin is coming off microfracture knee surgery and was suspended by the Nuggets during the playoffs for behavioral problems. Denver asked for Frye in the past and likely would again, but the Knicks won't trade Frye. http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...orts-headlines |
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So Carmelo isn't enough? Martin too? Oh no!
__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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If I were Denver I'd do it if that was the only way to get him off the team. KMart NEEDS to go and while Francis is definitely overpaid, overrated and selfish, he can score and Denver does not have a legitimate #2 scoring threat after Carmelo. Not to mention you save about $22 mil. Not too many teams are going to want to take on KMart so you've got to take what you can get. |
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Yeah, I think they would take Francis, but the Knicks would have to be nuts to take Martin, which of course means it's only a matter of time. I really don't think Denver wants to keep Martin, and I certainly hope the Spurs don't trade for him.
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Back when they were talking about the 8 team-19 player trade that was in the works, I posted a scenario where the Nuggets would trade Kenyon Martin and Andre Miller and get back Stephen Jackson (from Indiana) and Steve Francis. The contracts match up nearly perfectly. Of course this was before the trade for JR Smith. It is widely known that the Nuggets have been in desperate need of guards who can hit the 3. Getting Francis (and SJax) would definitely solve that problem. Re-signing Reggie Evans would lessen the impact of losing Martin in the post, of course. With Smith, there is less of a need for Stephen Jackson, but Francis (selfishness & all) would be a TALENT upgrade over Andre Miller. Of course, we've seen what "Talent before TEAM" does to the Knicks... Still, if they are interested in Francis, the deal would probably include either Miller or Boykins, since they traded Watson cuz they couldn't get him any playing time last year behind Miller & Boykins. |
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If the Nuggets were planning to ship Martin out for Francis w/o getting another big man in return, wouldn't that make them more likely to match Elson's offer?
__________________ "He's an ultimate warrior and that's what we see from him night after night." - Popovich on Manu, 2-12-06 "Getting a Sixth Man award is like being the best left-handed guard," Ginobili said. "I believe you're either the best player or not." 3-26-07
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so now you'll have two ball hogs. Boykins and Francis. Although, I got no problem with Boykins cause he is smarter in how he uses his quickness and ball skills. Francis will just run out the clock with some wierd logic.
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He is an awesome player and can do some pretty awesome dunks but after he got traded to Orlando he wasn't a team player. I wouldn't really want him on my team because he is really more of a wild card and doesnt listen very well. However, when he was in the playoffs with Houston against the Lakers, he was a diehard always going to the basket and the only person keeping the rockets in the game.
__________________ And do not worry about what you should drink or eat, nor have an anxious mind. For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows you need these things. But seek the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added to you. Luke 12:29-31 |
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Like I said earlier Francis is an awesome player but he is not a team leader. He always wants the ball and has confidence in himself which is great, but he doesnt have the leadership abilities that he thinks he has. He needs to understand that he is just a really good role player and if he does he will help out the nuggets a lot. But I have a feeling that his mindset isnt going to allow him to do that.
__________________ And do not worry about what you should drink or eat, nor have an anxious mind. For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows you need these things. But seek the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added to you. Luke 12:29-31 |
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well, since Francis has the smaller contract I guess I rather chance it with Francis which I guess is like answering Wiseacres question with "ah, which boot or foot is smaller?" |
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__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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Milwaukee is looking for a player like S. Francis. Milwaukee is looking to trade Magloire. Milwaukee could take on a Francis type contract... http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/milwaukee.htm
__________________ In the face of adversity I still say...Go Spurs Go |
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Also remember, they have rookies who have short, cheap contracts. Francis would destroy cap room completely. He would not help and his contract is still too long to be useful to come off the books.
__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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Poor Magloire...he just wants to go to a team like the Spurs for a season...help them win a championship...do a heck of a job that year...then look to get a mega deal from another team. If we're about winning championships now...I'd figure a way to make it happen.
__________________ In the face of adversity I still say...Go Spurs Go |
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__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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What does it have to do with Francis you ask...Bucks are looking for a SG - SF type to replace Magloire. Knicks are looking to reduce salary. Spurs have got expiring contracts and or draft rights.
__________________ In the face of adversity I still say...Go Spurs Go |
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The only time Rasho put up big numbers was when Duncan was injured the previous year. Nazr was inconsistent. Duncan was very inconsistent during the season especially at the tail ends of long trips and back to back nights. So I still don't see where Duncan plays more minutes? Parker has improved and hopefully Manu is healthy. Finley has shown he's adjusted. I really don't see what's different for the Spurs. The big men changed, but that's about it. Maybe they'll proved some more scoring relief, but that won't change Duncan's minutes. Pop is smart enough to keep the minutes down, I think. He saw the benefit in the post season this past year, even with the plantar facisitis. Jamal is not a 2 or a 3. Redd and Bobby Simmons make up their swing tandem. Their weakness is bench of course. Then point guard situation is a tad weak. They need to bolster their front line to help Bogut and Smith(who missed significant time). But they don't need a guy like Francis who will try to be a big option.
__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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As far as Milwaukee...they have said in reports that they were looking to get a quality PG or b/u SG to even consider trading Magloire.
__________________ In the face of adversity I still say...Go Spurs Go |
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Parker is continuing to grow and the team is learning to play better when he is sitting. So when Manu is injuried, should we worry about lacking a guy to replace him or Parker(who doesn't have a suitable backup it seems)? Spurs don't have a lot to offer for Magloire. He'll move, but not to the Spurs. Duncan may or may not miss time next year. Hopefully its not during the post season. But there's no addition you can really put in there that can make up for his loss. Only a few would come close with KG, Rasheed, etc.
__________________ UCLA!! "When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at this rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two and I know it was not that blow that did it. But all that had gone before." - Jacob Riis |
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