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Old 07-19-06, 04:21 PM
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reasons to like jackie butler

okay....17891 of the 17892 threads on butler here have all been about "who is this guy", and "why isn't this guy javtokas?"

well like it or not this guy is gonna be one of the pieces to a hopeful championship team. so why not show his positive? there are reasons the spurs like him

realistic reasons:

1. rejected more money from other teams to play for here
2. has seemingly good hands
3. _____________?
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Old 07-19-06, 04:25 PM
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okay....17891 of the 17892 threads on butler here have all been about "who is this guy", and "why isn't this guy javtokas?"

well like it or not this guy is gonna be one of the pieces to a hopeful championship team. so why not show his positive? there are reasons the spurs like him

realistic reasons:

1. rejected more money from the knicks to play for a better team
2. has seemingly good hands
3. _____________?

I think you're confusing most of the "don't want Elson" threads with Butler.
Most here want and like Butler. Others think Elson suks and thus compare his deal and game with that of Jak.
And Butler rejected more money from another team, NY never made an offer.

More reason for Butler:
Young.
Larry Brown trained.
Taller Malik with better hands.
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Old 07-19-06, 04:28 PM
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I think you're confusing most of the "don't want Elson" threads with Butler.
ahh ok. my fault. so many center threads in so little time...i mustve gotten these two guys confused...

but still....good reasons to like butler
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Old 07-19-06, 04:36 PM
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Word, the only reason the Spurs got Jackie was because the Knicks couldn't match (it'd cost them 7+7 million, due to being over the luxury tax). I for one, welcome our new undrafted CBA overlords. BYAAAAAAAA!
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Old 07-19-06, 04:39 PM
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let's not count our chickens before they're hatched. knicks still have til tomorrow to match.
remember when isiah pulled the rug out on the mallik-kurt thomas trade at the last minute. can't trust it til after the deadline.
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Bargain price.

Young and big.

Can't be worse than Rasho.

Can't be much worse than Nazr.

Good upside.

Good size.

Offensive board type.

Defense could be good.
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Old 07-19-06, 04:43 PM
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most people here seem to like Butler

Larry Brown being high on the guy does carry some weight and you can be sure it did with Pop
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Old 07-19-06, 04:46 PM
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let's not count our chickens before they're hatched. knicks still have til tomorrow to match.
remember when isiah pulled the rug out on the mallik-kurt thomas trade at the last minute. can't trust it til after the deadline.
Here Here

But I like the positives Butler would bring once it's official.
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Old 07-19-06, 04:48 PM
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let's not count our chickens before they're hatched. knicks still have til tomorrow to match.
remember when isiah pulled the rug out on the mallik-kurt thomas trade at the last minute. can't trust it til after the deadline.
crap, well no one tell Thomas.
He probably doesn't realize he has that extra day.

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In the summer of 2002, superscout, Bob Gibbons ranked the top high school players in the country:
1. LeBron James
2. Kendrick Perkins
3. Luol Deng
4. Jackie Butler
5. Charlie Villanueva
6. Shannon Brown
7. Ndudi Ebi
8. Leon Powe
9. Olu Famutimi
10. Chris Taft
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hes young and big and is a physical rebounder whats not too like
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Some Jackie Butler stories from Lexis-Nexis:
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri)

April 28, 2004 Wednesday Five Star Edition

SECTION: SPORTS; Sports Digest Column; Pg. D2

Auburn gets two years' probation


Auburn's basketball program was put on two years' probation on Tuesday. The NCAA cut one scholarship but cleared the university of major rules violations.

Auburn was exonerated of accusations involving large sums of money and expensive cars given to high school prospects Chadd Moore and Jackie Butler. But the NCAA found that an AAU coach, Mark Komara, was acting as a representative of Auburn when arranged to wire $3,125 for Butler and get a 1996 Dodge Stratus for Moore.

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Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)
October 9, 2004, Saturday, Metro Edition
SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. 3C
HEADLINE: Butler determined, despite his regrets; Wolf wishes he had chosen college
BYLINE: Kent Youngblood; Staff Writer


BODY:

On one side of Sexton Arena, Ndudi Ebi was spending his time after the Wolves' practice Friday, working on his shot. A few yards away, Jackie Butler was doing the same.

At first glance they have much in common. Ebi turned 20 in June, Butler celebrated his 19th birthday in March. Both were high school stars who bypassed college and made beelines directly to the NBA. Both have tantalizing skills, though those skills are still relatively raw.

That's where it ends.

Ebi was the Wolves' first-round draft choice in 2003. He has a guaranteed contract, which brings with it a credit line of patience from the Wolves.

Butler? He has a chance, an invitation to Wolves camp as an undrafted player that comes with no guaranteees. Oh, and he has some regrets. Butler tries hard not to dwell on them, but...

"I should have gone to college," Butler said, frowning. "That's what I tell everybody out here, and they say, 'It's too late now, you're in the league. Welcome to the league.' "

This is the darker side of the NBA's youth movement, the rush of players who, more and more, are using their athletic ability to jump directly from high school to the pros.

Talk a while with Butler and you get the sense he is wiser than his 19 years. He's been through a lot, received a lot of bad advice, made a few decisions he'd like to have back. But he's here now. A 6-10, 250-pounder with a powerful body and a strong desire to improve. The one thing he doesn't have is the luxury of time.

"He's going to play in our league," Wolves coach Flip Saunders said. "I don't know when, but he's going to play in our league. He's got enough talent. He's got great hands, a big body, and he really has a good feel for the game."

He also has a feel, now, for who he can trust.

Butler's trip from McComb, Miss., to Collegeville traces an interesting line. After a wonderful junior season in high school, Butler committed early to Mississippi State. Then things started going wrong. His name came up in connection with an NCAA investigation of the Auburn basketball program.

That cloud hung over Butler during a less successful senior year, after which he did not qualify academically for college. Butler went to one prep school, left after a few weeks, then landed at Coastal Christian Academy in Virginia Beach, Va. After averaging 29.3 points and 17 rebounds per game, Butler signed with Tennessee. But shortly thereafter, he signed with agent Ken Harris and declared his intent to enter the NBA draft.

But he wasn't drafted, despite a strong performance at the Chicago pre-draft camp. That means a free-agent contract without guarantees.

"That's the way it is," Wolves vice president Kevin McHale said. ""You get drafted and you're guaranteed some money. The team is going to spend more time trying to work with you, be more patient. But we know Jackie has a good upside, so we're going to give him a good hard look, and hopefully good things will happen for the kid."

It's just that his window of opportunity won't stay open as long as it would, say, for Ebi.

""I regret it," Butler said of his decision. ""I should have gone to school for two years, maybe three, then come out. Everything would have been right then."

Butler played for the Wolves during their summer league, and he showed flashes. He averaged 4.2 points in five games, including a nine-point, 10-rebound effort against Philadelphia.

He'll get his chance during the preseason, during which Butler will do his best to go from a cautionary tale to a feel-good story.

"I should have gone to college," he said. "Fine. But I'm here now. And I have to work hard. That's what I'm doing, working hard every day."

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Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)
December 11, 2005 Sunday
Metro Edition
SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. 13C
HEADLINE: insider;
AN NBA NOTEBOOK;
Butler's service pleases Knicks coach
BYLINE: Steve Aschburner, Staff Writer


BODY:


Remember Jackie Butler, the man-child who was in training camp with the Wolves in October 2004? Undrafted out of high school and reluctantly cut by the Wolves - he would have been perfect for the development league/affiliate system, if only it had existed then - Butler wound up playing much of last season for the CBA Great Lakes Storm before signing with the Knicks at the end of February. He's back in New York again this year and already has won over Knicks coach Larry Brown.

"Our best center by far is Jackie Butler,'' Brown said the other day, "and he's younger than all of them in terms of experience.''

Being better than Eddy Curry and Jerome James these days might be no great achievement, especially with both big-money centers nursing injuries (Curry left calf strain, James sore hamstring). Still, in a game last week against Boston, Butler had 10 points and five rebounds in 20 minutes. Curry contributed three points and one rebound in 14 minutes, while James had two points and two boards in 11 minutes.

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USA TODAY

June 22, 2004, Tuesday, FINAL EDITION

SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. 10C

LENGTH: 631 words

HEADLINE: Butler 'a work in progress'

BYLINE: Roscoe Nance


BODY:
This is the year of high school players in the NBA draft.


A record nine prep athletes' names are in the hopper for this year's draft, which will be held Thursday night in New York.


Eight of them are likely to be selected in the first round and receive guaranteed three-year contracts worth millions of dollars.


Jackie Butler, a 6-10, 250-pound forward from Coast Christian Academy (Va.), by way of Laurinburg (N.C.) Institute, by way of McComb (Miss.) High, is likely to be the odd man out.


Personnel executives like his size and the way he bangs inside. But they have questions about his intensity, his ability to control his weight and his maturity. They also say he is woefully lacking in the skills department.


"He's got the size," Indiana Pacers president Larry Bird says. "He's big. There are a lot of kids like that. They make a decision, and they have to live with it whether it's good or bad. There are a lot of talented kids, who if they could play more and more, they would be good."


Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Shaun Livingston, Robert Swift, Dorell Wright, Al Jefferson and Sebastian Telfair, the headliners in what is being called the year of high school players, have spent the past several weeks sorting through how high they will be drafted and by which team.


Butler doesn't have that luxury. For him, it's a question of if he'll be drafted, not when, and he has spent the past several weeks trying to convince teams he wouldn't be a wasted pick.


He was the only high school player who competed at the predraft camp, the second of two postseason venues for draft prospects. Telfair was invited, but he skipped it thinking he would only hurt his position in the draft by playing. The others weren't invited because a committee of NBA personnel executive concluded that they did not need to further prove themselves.


Butler, however, doesn't see a connection between having to play in Chicago and the possibility that he might not be drafted.


"I came because I got invited," he says. "I don't know why the others didn't come. They're first-rounders; they're good. But I would have come anyway. I'm hoping I'll go first round."


Butler played reasonably well in Chicago, averaging 9.3 rebounds and nine points, and he believes his stock has risen.


"I feel I did good," he says. "Everything came along the way I wanted it to. The other players were older than me. I think I learned a lot.


"I won't say where I am in the draft. I have a lot of more stuff to work on. But everything will fall in place on down the line."


And if things don't fall into place, and he's not drafted?


"I ain't going to answer that question," he says. "I ain't even thought about that. I'm going to the NBA."


Butler committed to Mississippi State as a senior at McComb High but didn't academically qualify. He signed a letter of intent with Tennessee after a year at Coastal Christian, but he says he never intended to enroll.


"I feel I can play in the league," he says. "College was an option, but I'm ready for the league."


In spite of how intent Butler is on keeping hope alive that he'll be a first-round pick, he didn't seem to turn enough heads in Chicago to make it happen. His best attribute is his ability to work the offensive boards. Of his 28 rebounds at the predraft camp, 17 were off the offensive glass.


Teams are highly unlikely to invest a first-round pick in such a one-dimensional player. Teams with multiple second-round picks could take him without risking a great financial loss if he doesn't pan out since his contract wouldn't have to be guaranteed.


"Maybe people will bring him in (to their summer camp)," Atlanta Hawks general manager Billy Knight says. "But they know he's a work in progress."
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Old 07-19-06, 05:20 PM
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hopefully he doesnt turn into another early entry bust but larry brown saw somthing in the kid sooo im sure pop will get the most outta the big guy bust his ass pop!!
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Old 07-19-06, 05:23 PM
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he's a little overweight... so he'll fit in nicely here in SA.
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Another reason:

The Knicks didn't much so...he must be very very good!
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Another reason:

Sportswriter's job of coming up with catchy Spur-related headlines becomes much easier with the obligatory "the Butler did it" on tap for Jackie's first big game. "Mohammed" and "Nesterovic" provided no such luxury.
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Well, I'm excited. For Larry Brown to like him, it must mean that Butler must be coachable, have an understanding of what Larry was trying to do, and was working hard. He had decent numbers on a team that I can't see going to him, or having any kind of inside prescense, the kind of prescense that Tim will bring. I just want to see someone who can get offensive rebounds and finish under the basket.

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Another reason:

Sportswriter's job of coming up with catchy Spur-related headlines becomes much easier with the obligatory "the Butler did it" on tap for Jackie's first big game. "Mohammed" and "Nesterovic" provided no such luxury.
Hey, I like that, "the Butler did it."
The dudes already got a nickname.
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Old 07-19-06, 06:31 PM
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great articles..thanks for posting 'em MTW

whatever happened to ebi..?! anyone know if hes playing overseas?
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Oh My Gawd. He even has the cross-eyed looked like Shaq...

I tell ya' man...it's Shaq resurected...
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What his Butler's percent body fat?
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Obviously the Spurs thought Pryzbilla was higher than Butler. I wouldn't get TOO excited.
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Oh My Gawd. He even has the cross-eyed looked like Shaq...
What?!?
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What?!?
It was meant as a compliment. But look at the photo again...Shaq has that same look when shooting FT's. Sorry...guess my sense of humor at that point wasn't understood.
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Old 07-19-06, 07:34 PM
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He looks focused, not cross-eyed to me...to each his own.
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The biggest reason is that you know Larry Brown was in Pop's ear abuot him.
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I'vre rewatched the Spurs/Knicks game (the homegame for the Spurs one) and did nothing but watch Butler.

To me he seemed like a young/poor-man's Nazr. He was good on the offensive boards just like Nazr. His hands seemed okay when it came to grabbing the ball, they didn't jump out as awesome to me from just that one game. He has good touch around the basket. He didn't have much lift when he jumped. Not 'Oberto bad' when it comes to the vertical, but it makes sense why he wasn't averaging more blocks.

The other thing was that he seemed slow of foot. Of course it was one game, who knows what kind of injuries he was playing through, but speed wise he seemed slower than Oberto and in the second half it seemed like a labor for him to get up and down the floor.

For the money he's a good value, i'll leave it at that.
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hopefull the Spurs are getting the Butler that played at the end of the season:
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In April 11 0 21.0 .638 .000 .636 2.3 3.2 5.5 .8 .2 .55 9.3
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I'll take a "poor man's" Nazr to start with. He is, after all, very young. I am pretty sure that Pop is going to give him a diet and exercise plan to follow this off season. If Butler wants to make this work, he will come to camp in better shape.
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I'll take a "poor man's" Nazr to start with. He is, after all, very young.
correct, that's why I put it at 'young/poormans'. Essentially the same thing, but the 'young' part denotes that he could grow and be better.

how much better, I don't know.
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He looks focused, not cross-eyed to me...to each his own.


Sorry...this comes from one of your posts in another thread.

I guess you're right...to each his own...
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My only comment on the whole Butler debate is something I remember reading this past season in an article about Boris Diaw, following his surpise eruption in Phoenix after wasting away at the end of the bench in Atlanta. I apoligize that I cannot remember who made this comment and thus cannot give credit where it is due.

The basic thrust here is that every player who makes it to the NBA is talented. We are not about to sign some stiff who cannot play the game. Butler and Elson both have demonstrated that they are NBA caliber players, regardless of their background or pedigree.

Further, one of the biggest problems the Spurs have had in the post-Robinson years, which oddly enough correspond with the Rasho/Nazr years, is underperformance from the center position. Now, I do not know if the players we had in that position suck, but I do not think that is the case. Rather, playing alongside an all-world player like Duncan our past two center experiments tended to not play to their potential.

What have I seen from Butler and Elson that tell me they might be different? First, both players have been buried behind more 'established' big men on each of their respective teams (Elson behind Camby, Nene, and Martin in Denver and Butler behind Curry, Frye, and James). Second, well, I do not really have a second, but if I think of anything I will be sure to post it.

What does all this mean? I, for one, am not going to pass judgment on these players until I get a chance to see them wearing silver and black, and then determine if they fit within the Spurs system. Remember that the 5 spot beside Tim Duncan is not as important as it might be in other "classical" basketball lineups. All these guys need to do is play strong team D, guard the basket, rebound aggresively, and drop in a few open shots a game. Heck, if I was seven feet tall I think I might be a stud in that position.

I think I am starting to ramble so I am going to shut up now.
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Old 07-19-06, 11:09 PM
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I love the fact that Butler can learn from Duncan and Horry, who are two of the more savvy bigs to ever play in this league.

Horry is an Alabama guy, and Butler is from Mississippi. Surely Horry will take him under his wing.

Point is, the kid has very good upside. Much better upside than any other big we've had since Duncan. And let's not forget how young 21 actually is. So the fact that this kid impressed Larry Brown, as much as Brown eats young players for lunch, that is really saying something.

Go Jackie.
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Flip had nice things to say about him even though he was just trying out for the team? Interesting.....

Larry Brown's comments? Not worth that much - it is just as likely to be a dig on Curry and James as it is genuine praise for Butler.

He actually said he regretted not going to college, straight out, no twists and turns.

I'm starting to think this kid might turn out fine.
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SpursReport cribbed this article.....I think Kyle Tucker should get some credit, SR administrators...

The Virginian-Pilot(Norfolk, Va.)

March 7, 2005 Monday The Virginian-Pilot Edition

SECTION: SPORTS, Pg. C7

LENGTH: 527 words

HEADLINE: Butler: From Coastal Christian to NBA

BYLINE: KYLE TUCKER

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BY KYLE TUCKER

THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

Jackie Butler's long and winding road has finally led him to the NBA.

The 6-foot-10, 250-pound center played last season at Coastal Christian Academy in Virginia Beach. Butler, a Mississippi native, had attended two other high schools and one other prep school before heading to Hampton Roads.

The former McDonald's All-American committed to Mississippi State -- where his recruitment prompted an NCAA investigation -- then signed with the University of Tennessee, before declaring early for the NBA draft last June.

His agent promised he would be an early selection in the draft, but Butler wasn't taken at all.

"So I got rid of my agent," Butler said. "Things didn't work out. But that's in the past. I've worked hard, and life is good now."

After leaving Coastal Christian, Butler spent some time on the Minnesota Timberwolves' summer league team, then signed with the Great Lakes Storm of the Continental Basketball Association.

With the Storm, Butler flourished. The 19-year-old used his size and uncanny athleticism to dominate the CBA. In 40 games, he averaged 18.1 points, 10.7 rebounds and 1.45 blocked shots. He was selected to start in the league's all-star game.

"Jackie's got the best hands and softest touch of any big man I've ever coached," said Storm coach Russ Bergman. "He became the best big man in the CBA. It was just a matter of time until an NBA team came calling."

One did last week, when the New York Knicks signed Butler for the rest of the season. The Knicks immediately put Butler on injured reserve for patella tendinitis -- although the injury isn't serious -- and plan to keep him there for the remainder of the season to prepare his body for the banging and his game for the level of competition.

"He's so raw, so young ... with his size and natural ability, all he's got is upside," said New York assistant coach Michael Malone. "If he keeps progressing, we see some good things. This could be a long-term thing."

Butler signed for a pro-rated share of the league-minimum $385,777. The salary isn't the only thing that has improved for this talented journeyman.

"In the CBA, you had to fight for an exit row," Butler said of the Storm's commercial airline travels. "In the NBA, you're going to get good leg room. Real good leg room."

Malone said Butler still has to learn all the calls, defensive schemes and offensive sets that can be confusing for a young player in the NBA. He said Butler still needs to get stronger.

But, Malone said, Butler has one NBA-quality skill right now.

"I don't know if he could score on anyone at the moment, but I could put him in a game and he could rebound today," Malone said.

And something else.

The long and winding road can produce another desirable attribute.

"He's hungry," Malone said. "You should have seen the smile on his face for his first game in Madison Square Garden. He was a little awestruck at first, but I think he realizes this is where he wants to stay.

"With that attitude and his work ethic, he's got a real chance to play in the NBA."

* Reach Kyle Tucker at 446-2374 or [email protected]

GRAPHIC: The New York Knicks signed 6-foot-10 Jackie Butler, who played at Coastal Christian last season.

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The Virginian-Pilot(Norfolk, Va.)

June 23, 2004 Wednesday Final Edition

SECTION: SPORTS, Pg. C1

LENGTH: 988 words

HEADLINE: AFTER A YEAR AT COASTAL CHRISTIAN, HE'S ONE CALL AWAY FROM THE NBA/

BYLINE: Ed Miller THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

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Jackie Butler was lazy. You could have asked anyone at the NBA pre-draft camp in Chicago last week.

"That was the word on the streets," Butler admitted.

Jackie Butler's best days were behind him. You could have asked any of the recruiting analysts who saw him slip from sky's-the-limit sophomore to wind-sucking high school senior.

"His game suffered," said one analyst, Dave Telep. "He didn't take his conditioning seriously."

Jackie Butler was a kid of questionable character. Ask the folks at Auburn, where Butler was at the center of a recruiting scandal that landed the Tigers on two years' probation and cost them two scholarships.

Butler, who spent last season playing at Coastal Christian Academy in Virginia Beach, carted all that baggage to Chicago earlier this month , joining 64 other players for an audition in front of NBA scouts and executives. By week's end, he had shed most of the negativ e talk and had muscled his way into the NBA draft conversation.

"It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him get picked," said Chris Ekstrand, former editor of the NBA's draft guide. "He really did pretty well for himself."

Butler, 6-foot-10 and 263 pounds, led the camp in rebounding (9.3 per game) and also averaged nine points in roughly 20 minutes per game. He was the only American player in the camp without college experience.

Draft pundits declared him one of the surprises of the camp. One mock draft has him going No. 36 to Seattle, another at No. 37 to Orlando on Thursday. Those are second-round slots, without guaranteed contract money. But a handful of second-rounders make teams each year, and Butler - make that Team Butler - figures he will be one of them. That's provided someone doesn't take a flier on him late in the first round , because to hear Team Butler tell it, their man's stock is rising by the minute.

Team Butler is Ken Harris, Butler's agent; Walter Webb, his former coach at Coastal Christian; and the folks at IMG Academy in Florida who helped him sculpt an "NBA body" at age 19.

As for the questions about his work ethic, Butler seemed to answer those with his spirited play and professional comportment in Chicago.

"I think a lot of NBA personnel have been pleasantly surprised with how hard he works and how he carries himself," Harris said. "The type of person he is is counter to what people think he is."

Harris is an admittedly biased observer. But Ekstrand, one of the league's most respected evaluators of talent, seconded what Harris said.

"He showed a lot of desire," Ekstrand said. "He had moments where he really outworked people for the ball."

Butler had much to prove. After attending three high schools and committing to two colleges, he declared for the NBA draft in April. He then signed with Harris, thereby giving up any chance of ever playing college basketball.

Butler's college recruitment was a tangled mess that actually made NCAA infractions history. Auburn was accused of offering Butler, then a sophomore playing in his hometown of McComb, Miss., $70,000 and a new sports utility vehicle. Though Auburn was cleared of that charge, the NCAA found that Butler's AAU coach, Mark Komara of Huntsville, Ala., was acting as a representative of Auburn when he arranged to wire $3,125 to Butler. Komara is believed to be the first AAU coach to be designated a representative of a university. Butler was one of two players involved.

Asked about Auburn, Butler said he's put it behind him.

"I'm looking ahead," he said.

Harris said the Auburn situation was an "external issue" that Butler had to overcome. Webb called him a "victim of circumstances."

Butler never committed to Auburn but did commit to Mississippi State. He was voted a McDonald's All-American in 2003 and considered turning pro then, but opted to attend Laurinburg Institute in North Carolina to try to become academically eligible to play college ball.

Butler left Laurinburg before the season began - the school "wasn't me," he said - and transferred to Coastal Christian, known the past few years for taking in players looking for second or third chances.

Webb said his goals were to shore up Butler's academics and improve his conditioning.

"A lot of people thought he was lazy, and I'll admit Jackie did have some signs of being lazy when he came into the program," Webb said.

Butler kept a low profile at Coastal, where he averaged 27 points, 11 rebounds and five blocks. Webb said he basically "quarantined" his new player.

"We had to try to protect Jackie from everyday situations," Webb said. "Just stay on your books, stay focused, hit the weight room.

"Every day wasn't a great day for Jackie, but he had more good days than bad."

Butler credits Coastal for much of his turnaround. He signed with Tennessee in November, but then declared for the NBA draft. Webb said Butler would have been academically eligible to attend Tennessee but feared that the NCAA would make him sit out a year because of the Auburn situation.

Thomas Yeager, chairman of the NCAA's infractions committee, said he could not comment on Butler's case specifically, but that generally, "recruiting violations are not amateurism violations" that would force a player to sit out a year at a different school.

It's beside the point now, with Butler focused solely on a pro career. In addition to playing in Chicago, he's worked out for the Washington Wizards, the Atlanta Hawks, the Dallas Mavericks and the Los Angeles Lakers.

Butler's biggest strengths are his size and his soft hands. He's raw offensively, Ekstrand said, but ran the floor well and showed a willingness to bang inside. He also showed an ability to change people's perceptions of him.

"I think I did real good out there in Chicago," Butler said. "They said I looked real good.

"Nothing against Tennessee, but I feel I'm ready for the NBA."

Reach Ed Miller at 446-2372 or ed.miller pilotonline.com

GRAPHIC: Color Photo/ Jackie Butler has emerged as a potential second-round pick in the NBA draft on Thursday./

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In the summer of 2002, superscout, Bob Gibbons ranked the top high school players in the country:
1. LeBron James
2. Kendrick Perkins
3. Luol Deng
4. Jackie Butler
5. Charlie Villanueva
6. Shannon Brown
7. Ndudi Ebi
8. Leon Powe
9. Olu Famutimi
10. Chris Taft
So the guy was about 30% right, most of these players are no where to be found now.
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Sorry...this comes from one of your posts in another thread.

I guess you're right...to each his own...
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