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Old 06-21-06, 02:30 PM
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Oberto for Bonner ?

Oberto for Bonner ?
I don't know what it's worth but raps board on realgm report that we will trade Oberto for Bonner today.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=528447
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Old 06-21-06, 02:31 PM
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Wow, amazing if true.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:35 PM
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If it does go down, Bonner would provide the Spurs with a Danny Ferry type of player who can hit the long ball and the jump shot.

But he is not athletic and doesnt rebound well for his size.

But he would provide plenty of added dimensions on offense IF THIS IS TRUE.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:37 PM
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Why amazing? They are virtual clones...
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Old 06-21-06, 02:37 PM
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Last week Raptors made a trade, Araujo to the Jazz for someone I don't remember

Anyone know if this trade work under CBA?
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Old 06-21-06, 02:39 PM
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Why amazing? They are virtual clones...
Bonner and Oberto are opposite players.

Bonner is a perimeter shooter who could open things up for TD and provide the team with another long range gunner w/ size.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:42 PM
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I like it. Do it. Give the big red head an open 3 and he's money.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:45 PM
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Oberto for Bonner ?
I don't know what it's worth but raps board on realgm report that we will trade Oberto for Bonner today.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=528447

IS THIS TRUE?!?!?

If this happens, and I can't see why the raps would do this- they might as well cancel the 06/07 season and give the trophy to the Spurs now.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:46 PM
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How many years left in Bonner contract?
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Old 06-21-06, 02:48 PM
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he does make less money so maybe they are trying to do the deal to help bring in scola?
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Old 06-21-06, 02:49 PM
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How many years left in Bonner contract?
one more year at 2 million $.
if true, this is a nice move.
at 26 Bonner is younger than most of our players and for such a big guy he's quite a decent shooter.
but he's not exactly the athletic injection we are waiting for, though.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:49 PM
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hmm. pop and rc must be confident in what javtokas (and maybe scola) can bring to the team. if this is true, that is.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:52 PM
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Considering this is true, the Spurs have

Rasho/Javtokas
Tim/Horry/Bonner (with Bonner getting lots of regular season mins)
Maybe one more big man, quality not known as of this time.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:52 PM
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Trade is done... according the the Raptor board...
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Trade is done... according the the Raptor board...
You have a link?
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Old 06-21-06, 02:53 PM
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he does make less money so maybe they are trying to do the deal to help bring in scola?
despite my sarcastic comments earlier- why would the Raps do this?
Bonner, I must admit know little about him, but he seems to be a decent role player, while Oberto looks to be a little overmatched in the athletic department for the NBA.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:55 PM
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You have a link?
The bastard just deleted the link... arg...

15 pages for oberto... damn...
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despite my sarcastic comments earlier- why would the Raps do this?
Bonner, I must admit know little about him, but he seems to be a decent role player, while Oberto looks to be a little overmatched in the athletic department for the NBA.
Maybe they want to make room for 6-11 Andrea Bargnani if they draft him w/ the first pick.

He can shoot it from deep and is athletic. Maybe they think Oberto can give them the lunchpail play down low when he plays because Bonner is a different type of player than Oberto is and Bargnani is more of scorer and natural talent than a guy like Oberto.
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Old 06-21-06, 02:58 PM
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I can't think of anything I hate about this trade. Sucks for Oberto, but hey good news is he gets to see another part of the world! hehe.
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Old 06-21-06, 03:03 PM
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OMG look at his hops he is so athletic

Bonner throwing down!
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Old 06-21-06, 03:04 PM
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despite my sarcastic comments earlier- why would the Raps do this?
they have Bosh, Villanueve and now got Humphries, who is similar to Bonner but more athletic, via the Araujo trade. Bonner woldn't see many minutes at this roster anyhow and as mentioned, Raptors might draft another frontcourt player.
Oberto gives them some more balance at their roster, he's for sure a better rebounder than Bonner and Toronto was the 2nd worst rebounding team in the league.
so it would make sense for the Raptors.
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Old 06-21-06, 03:10 PM
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He's as athletic as a 20ton boulder, but thats not why he'd be valuable.
I just thought the video was funny.


BTW who's idea was it to make the huge rolleyes= : richb, that is hilarious
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Old 06-21-06, 03:12 PM
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Tks, I was only looking at their physical similarities.

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Bonner and Oberto are opposite players.

Bonner is a perimeter shooter who could open things up for TD and provide the team with another long range gunner w/ size.
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Old 06-21-06, 03:15 PM
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I watched him in a couple of games last year and I remember him being decent. A lot of upside and if he can lear the system he could play some help defense. This seems more like a piece to a puzzle though. if it goes through I would imagine it will be part of a bigger deal or scenario (scola, trade, etc)
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I didn't realize that teams could trade before July 1st. How come our media has not even mentioned this as a rumor?

Sounds okay to me. I do like Obby and hate to see him go but if it makes the Spurs better and Obby gets to play more minutes in Toronto, good for him.
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Another Jerry Colanglo my scrub for your scrub trade. I don't think Bonner will do anything for us.
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Old 06-21-06, 03:25 PM
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Some of the comments on the RealGM board are saying that even the scraps in SA are good players and that Coangelo knows what he is doing.
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How can he defend?

I've never watched him
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Old 06-21-06, 03:33 PM
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this rumor has a chance to happen because both gms would like what it does
it is not a one sided deal
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Old 06-21-06, 03:34 PM
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Bonner is hardly anymore established that Marks I'll tell you that much. The guy won't do much. I think the plan was to get a SF/PF since they will be picking up Javtokas who will most likely be a PF/C. With TD, Fabio, Rasho, Javtokas and occasionaly Horry playing the same position it would be too crowded. So they traded Oberto since no one wants Rasho.
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Old 06-21-06, 03:35 PM
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Bobcat just made reference to it on the Fan 590, saying there's news of a Raptors trade going down and he heard Bonner may be 1 of the principles, that's all he said
according to realgm thread
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I'm going to hold my breath on this one.

*paging Amente*
what?

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Old 06-21-06, 03:40 PM
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Well you normally know whats going on.


It's possible.

I hear the Spurs are really working the phones hoping to make a move
in the draft so if true this may have come about due to those phone calls.
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It's possible.

I hear the Spurs are really working the phones hoping to make a move
in the draft so if true this may have come about due to those phone calls.
Do you know who they might have in mind that would cause them to want to move up?
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34 pages now on this at realgm wow
must be summer
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who is bonner?
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Spurs must also find that .5 million discrepancy in yearly salary attractive, as well.
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34 pages now on this at realgm wow
must be summer
It's a Raps board,
this deal could be the final piece for them. Reason to be excited.
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This shouldn't be anywhere close to the final piece. If it is their puzzle still really sucks.
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who would be ticked if scola also is involved?
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^^^depends what else was coming back our way.
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who would be ticked if scola also is involved?
Both scola & oberto for Bonner?

sh1tty trade.
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i wouldn't be ticked as long as something/someone else was involved. but they don't have any other picks in the first so i would probably be pretty ticked.
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Raptors get:

Oberto and 2nd Round pick 2006......

We get:

Bonner...


I saw this on Real GM, so take it for what its worth.
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Fan says they hope to announce something in 2hrs or so. Thats about as official as weve heard. from realgm
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if that's right then they must be close to bringing scola...to totally get out of this draft? don't know if i like it.
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word is they are trying to move in the first round

that does not sound like they want out of it

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Toronto's Ticket 590 said something about an announcement in 2 hours or so.....

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if that's right then they must be close to bringing scola...to totally get out of this draft? don't know if i like it.
I thought I remembered reading somewhere that all teams are required to pick at least one player in every draft...is that true
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Spurs must also find that .5 million discrepancy in yearly salary attractive, as well.
The Spurs are probably going to be luxury tax payers this year and beyond, so that 0.5 mil this year is really 1.0 mil when you pay the lux tax. The year after that on Oberto's deal would cost the Spurs another 2.5 + 2.5 mil, which they wouldn't have to pay Bonner, so the Spurs could save about $6 mil by making this move.
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yeah, your right about the first round...i hope they do make that trade for a first round spot. and if that first trade they're setting up falls through. but as they jamesR said, in pop we trust!
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