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Old 05-21-06, 10:14 AM
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Game 7 key: Tim Duncan!

Tim had three fouls in Game 1, played 41 minutes and the Spurs won.

In Game 2, Tim had to sit down with 3 fouls in the second quarter and the Spurs were quickly knocked out.

In Games 3 and 4 Tim fouled out late and the Spurs lost heart breakers.

In Game 5 Tim had only 2 fouls and played 44 minutes and the Spurs squeaked by by one point.

Game 6 looked like Game 2 as Tim was in foul trouble early and only played 32 minutes but Manu had an extraordinary game and Dallas struggled without Jason Terry, allowing the Spurs to slow the tempo and take the win. But Jason will be on the floor tomorrow and the Spurs will not win if Tim gets in foul trouble. Tim needs to be kept on the floor by limiting his defense to Rasho style positional defense. If somebody tries to go around him, he should let him go and autograph the poster after the post game celebration! Tim is too valuable on the offensive end to squander his playing time by also making him act like a utility big on the defensive end, banging under the basket.

The Spurs just don't have another option on offense- Manu is too much of a streak player to count on him to carry the team in two elimination games in a row (although he might!). Tony may have outscored Tim during the regular season 18.9 to 18.6 but he was less efficient than the hobbled Duncan at 25.62 per 48 minutes to Tim's 31.79.

Now Tim has stepped it up to where he is the most efficient player per 48 in the playoffs at 37.47 while Tony is in his normal playoff step back at 20.41- Tony as usual is having trouble keeping up with l'arithmetic and has taken 17 shots per playoff game to Tim's 15 and has even brought back his infamous Hail Mary three point shot which had been retired to the Spurs' and Tony's benefit during the regular season, hitting 22% so far on nine shots, an improvement over last year's 18% in the playoffs. This series is too tight to allow Tony to waste possessions on this shot or his mid range jumper which Dallas has been leaving open, prompting Tony to shoot rather than to pass to the most efficient player in the playoffs with a field goal percentage of 58.3%. Nick has his limitations but he is a better ball distributor than Tony.

Even if Tim curtails his defense he will still be vulnerable to fouls since Avery will be running a lot of plays against him as well as trying to set up charges to fell the giant. One counter the Spurs haven't used yet would be to deploy Nazr early if Tim incurs even one foul or to give Tim a breather late in the first.

Nazr is a stronger rebounder than Tim and has a decent shot but as his ball handling skills tend more to Malik than Robert he shouldn't be on the floor with Tony but rather Nick and/or Brent.

Nazr has only averaged 11.5 minutes per game in the games he has played but he's putting up 4.5 points and 3.9 rebounds in that limited opportunity which on an EFF 48 places him second on the team at 30.63 (the overworked Big Shot Bob trails badly at 19.19)-this intensity ranks him ahead of Wade and Shaq on a production per minute of play basis!

Nazr is also an accomplished foul magnet (7.72 per 48 minutes during the regular season) so he would satisfy the refs' needs to blow their whistles on the champs so that they wouldn't put Tim under the microscope when he returns. Nazr is also in a contract year like Bonzi.

So Pop, enough of this unilateral disarmament- give Nazr his 11.5 minutes tomorrow!
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Old 05-21-06, 10:19 AM
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holy ****... make it more readable
anyway i think you're right

Duncan must have a great start... or we must have great D (if we have the two during the start bye mavs)...

Duncan +Manu + D = Spurs Win 1st half
Duncan + TOny + D = Spurs Win 1st half
Tony + Manu + D = Spurs win 1st half

so its really 2 of the big three palying well and our defense staying like it is during the 1st half of game 6...

but with terry back we'd be hard pressed to generate the same effort
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Old 05-21-06, 10:26 AM
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the mavs had terry in game 5 and we still won the game ....spurs have the momentum, the homecourt and the best bb player on the planet....let the mavs worry about that
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Old 05-21-06, 10:31 AM
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Yaeh TD and the other 3 bigs need to stay out foul trouble
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the mavs had terry in game 5 and we still won the game ....spurs have the momentum, the homecourt and the best bb player on the planet....let the mavs worry about that
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Old 05-21-06, 12:08 PM
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D is the main thing. Yes of course two of the three has to come big. But, having D and rebounding will tilt the game in our favor right from the begining. Otherwise, it will be anybody's game till the last second.

I feel that Terry or no Terry does not make a difference. I dont think Gm 6 would be any different in its outcome even if Terry was there. Spurs (Finley?) had the resolve to not to go for vacation as yet.

As Pop said at the begining of the game, when a this player or that player is suspended, he had seen crazy results. So, he was expecting Mavs to rally behind that suspension and to some extent they did. If Devin Harris had a good game in gm6, it would have helped them. But, like Pop said, probably Spurs did something to him and hope they do the same thing in Gm7.

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Quote from SpursErie "Tim had three fouls in Game 1, played 41 minutes and the Spurs won. In Game 2, Tim had to sit down with 3 fouls in the second quarter and the Spurs were quickly knocked out. In Games 3 and 4 Tim fouled out late and the Spurs lost heart breakers. In Game 5 Tim had only 2 fouls and played 44 minutes and the Spurs squeaked by by one point. Game 6 looked like Game 2 as Tim was in foul trouble early and only played 32 minutes but Manu had an extraordinary game and Dallas struggled without Jason Terry, allowing the Spurs to slow the tempo and take the win. But Jason will be on the floor tomorrow and the Spurs will not win if Tim gets in foul trouble.

Tim needs to be kept on the floor by limiting his defense to Rasho style positional defense. If somebody tries to go around him, he should let him go and autograph the poster after the post game celebration! Tim is too valuable on the offensive end to squander his playing time by also making him act like a utility big on the defensive end, banging under the basket.

The Spurs just don't have another option on offense- Manu is too much of a streak player to count on him to carry the team in two elimination games in a row (although he might!). Tony may have outscored Tim during the regular season 18.9 to 18.6 but he was less efficient than the hobbled Duncan at 25.62 per 48 minutes to Tim's 31.79. Now Tim has stepped it up to where he is the most efficient player per 48 in the playoffs at 37.47 while Tony is in his normal playoff step back at 20.41- Tony as usual is having trouble keeping up with l'arithmetic and has taken 17 shots per playoff game to Tim's 15 and has even brought back his infamous Hail Mary three point shot which had been retired to the Spurs' and Tony's benefit during the regular season, hitting 22% so far on nine shots, an improvement over last year's 18% in the playoffs.

This series is too tight to allow Tony to waste possessions on this shot or his mid range jumper which Dallas has been leaving open, prompting Tony to shoot rather than to pass to the most efficient player in the playoffs with a field goal percentage of 58.3%. Nick has his limitations but he is a better ball distributor than Tony.

Even if Tim curtails his defense he will still be vulnerable to fouls since Avery will be running a lot of plays against him as well as trying to set up charges to fell the giant. One counter the Spurs haven't used yet would be to deploy Nazr early if Tim incurs even one foul or to give Tim a breather late in the first.

Nazr is a stronger rebounder than Tim and has a decent shot but as his ball handling skills tend more to Malik than Robert he shouldn't be on the floor with Tony but rather Nick and/or Brent. Nazr has only averaged 11.5 minutes per game in the games he has played but he's putting up 4.5 points and 3.9 rebounds in that limited opportunity which on an EFF 48 places him second on the team at 30.63 (the overworked Big Shot Bob trails badly at 19.19)-this intensity ranks him ahead of Wade and Shaq on a production per minute of play basis! Nazr is also an accomplished foul magnet (7.72 per 48 minutes during the regular season) so he would satisfy the refs' needs to blow their whistles on the champs so that they wouldn't put Tim under the microscope when he returns. Nazr is also in a contract year like Bonzi. So Pop, enough of this unilateral disarmament- give Nazr his 11.5 minutes tomorrow!"

(Sorry man...had to do it...wanted to make sure I knew what you were saying.) Okay, while I understand your point it will never happen. Pop won't change his rotation. It has been working. Timmy will be in foul trouble? Maybe...it depends upon who is reffing and how smart he is with the basketball.

What I don't want to see is the doubling of Nowitski. Let him get his points, but make the others get theirs. There will be plenty of nerves on the Mavs side...I don't care what _irk says.
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Old 05-21-06, 08:41 PM
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Nazr is a stronger rebounder than Tim and has a decent shot but as his ball handling skills tend more to Malik than Robert he shouldn't be on the floor with Tony but rather Nick and/or Brent.

Nazr has only averaged 11.5 minutes per game in the games he has played but he's putting up 4.5 points and 3.9 rebounds in that limited opportunity which on an EFF 48 places him second on the team at 30.63 (the overworked Big Shot Bob trails badly at 19.19)-this intensity ranks him ahead of Wade and Shaq on a production per minute of play basis!
i really, really don't think nazr can be considered a better rebounder than tim. he's more athletic, but tim uses his postioning and long arms much better.

per 48 mins are TERRIBLE when comparing players w/ such limited time. darko would be theoretically getting like 10 blocks a game. there is a reason some players don't play as much as others, and suggesting he's more efficient than shaq or wade is a big mistake. this is just a minipulaion of statistics with the wrong outcomes.
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Old 05-21-06, 08:43 PM
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Thanks for cleaning it up but I left the D off Duncan to make the point we can't expect him to work both ends of the court tomorrow and stay out off foul trouble so he should let the D go and concentrate on his offense and rebounding since he is the team's and the league's most efficient player in these playoffs. Tim's foul count in the first half is the key statistic to watch.
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