"Tim Duncan Somewhat Overated"

[Spurs|ATX|]

hoopshype, poopswipe... same difference

[alpineballer]

the list is a joke.
desperate approach to be somehow "groundbreaking" by picking or not picking and judging players a way noone else would ever have thought of.

[bnwhuxley]

Go tell Patrick Ewing to play PF and see if he can pull it off.

[JTD]

The writer is overrated because he's actually a moron passing himself off as an idiot!!!

[Jason R]

Funny how upset everyone gets.

[Menudo Terremoto Williams]

Sportscenter highlights, all-interview teams, shoe contracts, jersey sales, gaudy individual statistics, a large media market or a Pepsodent smile do not make a great player. Results do.

Duncan is the best player of his generation --- he has all the hardware and jewelry to back it up.

I will say, however, that Timmy is WAY OVERRATED in D & D. He always thinks his 17th level conjurer can take out a coven of chromatic dragons. Pipplewash!

[Falcone]

consider the source...Hoopshype----> the Nat'l Enquirer of NBA news

[scheely]

........poop!

[Manu_Tres]

here is the math

Duncan + LA and/or NY uniform + Championships = THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME

Duncan + SA Uniform + Championships = Great but not THE GREATEST because of this, that, nit pick

Its all about the market Timmy is in. To bad our society still succumbs to subtle forms of biased discrimination based geographical location and social rank.

[atownspursfan]

Originally Posted by Jason R

Funny how upset everyone gets.

Exactly...
Take your SPURS cap off, and put yourself in his shoes...he writes for the NBA, not the Spurs...with that said, he does have some merit behind his article:
he says Duncan is overrated...in our world of "what have you done for me lately", Duncan has looked awful. Moreover, it's great that he is Mr. Consistent, but why has he not improved? Imagine if he had Kobe's drive (just his drive!).
he says he's a center who bills himself as a PF...he does play center, especially when Horry is in. So, it IS fair to compare him to any C/PF.
Duncan can't hold a candle to Hakeem, and he is on P. Ewing's level...Individually speaking, all accolades and honors aside, he isn't on Hakeem's level, nor is he on a young D. Robinson's level. Can you imagine D. Rob in his prime, with his 25+ points, 12 reb, 2 steals, 3+ blocks, etc. playing with Pop as his coach and running with the likes of TP and manu? That would be sick...
he says Duncan is shaky in the clutch...I don't remember the last time he "took over" a game. Jordan was clutch, reggie miller was clutch, hakeem was clutch, wade is clutch, kobe is clutch, manu is clutch. I don't think Duncan fits that bill. He isn't shaky, but he also isn't clutch. Duncan has had his clutch days (not recently), but I wouldn't consider him up there with the top clutch players.

BTW - Duncan is more than deserving of top 60, probably top 25, just not "best of all time" like some of you see it...

[Manu_Tres]

Originally Posted by atownspursfan

Exactly...
Take your SPURS cap off, and put yourself in his shoes...he writes for the NBA, not the Spurs...with that said, he does have some merit behind his article:
he says Duncan is overrated...in our world of "what have you done for me lately", Duncan has looked awful. Moreover, it's great that he is Mr. Consistent, but why has he not improved? Imagine if he had Kobe's drive (just his drive!).
he says he's a center who bills himself as a PF...he does play center, especially when Horry is in. So, it IS fair to compare him to any C/PF.
Duncan can't hold a candle to Hakeem, and he is on P. Ewing's level...Individually speaking, all accolades and honors aside, he isn't on Hakeem's level, nor is he on a young D. Robinson's level. Can you imagine D. Rob in his prime, with his 25+ points, 12 reb, 2 steals, 3+ blocks, etc. playing with Pop as his coach and running with the likes of TP and manu? That would be sick...
he says Duncan is shaky in the clutch...I don't remember the last time he "took over" a game. Jordan was clutch, reggie miller was clutch, hakeem was clutch, wade is clutch, kobe is clutch, manu is clutch. I don't think Duncan fits that bill. He isn't shaky, but he also isn't clutch. Duncan has had his clutch days (not recently), but I wouldn't consider him up there with the top clutch players.

BTW - Duncan is more than deserving of top 60, probably top 25, just not "best of all time" like some of you see it...

Dennis Hans (author of article) is this you???

Anyway, Spurs Homer hat off

Duncan is Great. No doubt about that.

no. 21 has won three (3) championships with three different supporting casts. Hakeem did it with the same cast, Ewing never won one.

Plus, thats the beauty of Duncan, the guy has been able to play at a consistant HIGH level while adjusting to new teammates and injuries.

To say Duncan is an overrated basketplayer is like saying Blood is somewhat, but not really important to the human body.

[Supernatural Anesthetist]

[Dave McNulla]

scoreboard baby.
tim = 3
hakeem = 2
3 > 2, tim > hakeem

[TheChillFactor]

Originally Posted by atownspursfan

Exactly...
Take your SPURS cap off, and put yourself in his shoes...he writes for the NBA, not the Spurs...with that said, he does have some merit behind his article:
he says Duncan is overrated...in our world of "what have you done for me lately", Duncan has looked awful. Moreover, it's great that he is Mr. Consistent, but why has he not improved? Imagine if he had Kobe's drive (just his drive!).
he says he's a center who bills himself as a PF...he does play center, especially when Horry is in. So, it IS fair to compare him to any C/PF.
Duncan can't hold a candle to Hakeem, and he is on P. Ewing's level...Individually speaking, all accolades and honors aside, he isn't on Hakeem's level, nor is he on a young D. Robinson's level. Can you imagine D. Rob in his prime, with his 25+ points, 12 reb, 2 steals, 3+ blocks, etc. playing with Pop as his coach and running with the likes of TP and manu? That would be sick...
he says Duncan is shaky in the clutch...I don't remember the last time he "took over" a game. Jordan was clutch, reggie miller was clutch, hakeem was clutch, wade is clutch, kobe is clutch, manu is clutch. I don't think Duncan fits that bill. He isn't shaky, but he also isn't clutch. Duncan has had his clutch days (not recently), but I wouldn't consider him up there with the top clutch players.

BTW - Duncan is more than deserving of top 60, probably top 25, just not "best of all time" like some of you see it...

i have a lot of problems with this post but i'll just say that if you think d rob was better than duncan you need a drug test.

[DizzG]

Originally Posted by atownspursfan

Exactly...
Take your SPURS cap off, and put yourself in his shoes...he writes for the NBA, not the Spurs...with that said, he does have some merit behind his article:
he says Duncan is overrated...in our world of "what have you done for me lately", Duncan has looked awful. Moreover, it's great that he is Mr. Consistent, but why has he not improved? Imagine if he had Kobe's drive (just his drive!).
he says he's a center who bills himself as a PF...he does play center, especially when Horry is in. So, it IS fair to compare him to any C/PF.
Duncan can't hold a candle to Hakeem, and he is on P. Ewing's level...Individually speaking, all accolades and honors aside, he isn't on Hakeem's level, nor is he on a young D. Robinson's level. Can you imagine D. Rob in his prime, with his 25+ points, 12 reb, 2 steals, 3+ blocks, etc. playing with Pop as his coach and running with the likes of TP and manu? That would be sick...
he says Duncan is shaky in the clutch...I don't remember the last time he "took over" a game. Jordan was clutch, reggie miller was clutch, hakeem was clutch, wade is clutch, kobe is clutch, manu is clutch. I don't think Duncan fits that bill. He isn't shaky, but he also isn't clutch. Duncan has had his clutch days (not recently), but I wouldn't consider him up there with the top clutch players.

BTW - Duncan is more than deserving of top 60, probably top 25, just not "best of all time" like some of you see it...

Good Lord...did you write the stupid article everyone is complaining about? sounds like it. you sound like you have only watched SA this season

[Supernatural Anesthetist]

Ahhh. the finals MVP who put the Spurs on his back in the final game 7 last year and drove us home for the victory is now..not clutch. What a bunch of .

[BlitzKriegBop]

Originally Posted by atownspursfan

Exactly...
he says Duncan is overrated...in our world of "what have you done for me lately", Duncan has looked awful.

Uhh, it's hard to do much when you are playing through pain.

Moreover, it's great that he is Mr. Consistent, but why has he not improved? Imagine if he had Kobe's drive (just his drive!).

Who says tim doesn't have a competitive drive? Just because he doesn't show it like most players doesn't mean it's there. For God's sake, look at the seattle series last year. Tim had the crap beaten out of him and twisted his ankle late in the 4th quarter of game six. Did he act like a baby and sit out? No! He hit the game winning basket for crying out loud. What more do you want?

he says he's a center who bills himself as a PF...he does play center, especially when Horry is in. So, it IS fair to compare him to any C/PF.

And how often does horry come in the game?

Duncan can't hold a candle to Hakeem, and he is on P. Ewing's level...Individually speaking, all accolades and honors aside, he isn't on Hakeem's level, nor is he on a young D. Robinson's level.

No comment... I'm sure the rest of the posters on here will let you have it for that one.

he says Duncan is shaky in the clutch...I don't remember the last time he "took over" a game. Jordan was clutch, reggie miller was clutch, hakeem was clutch, wade is clutch, kobe is clutch, manu is clutch. I don't think Duncan fits that bill. He isn't shaky, but he also isn't clutch. Duncan has had his clutch days (not recently), but I wouldn't consider him up there with the top clutch players.

This is the only thing i can partially agree with you on, especially with tim's woeful ft shooting. Nevertheless, given that he plays in the post a lot, he will not get many good looks in the final seconds of a game. Aside from hakeem, who had PLENTY of clutch shootesr around him, those other players you mentioned were all guards. They have more room to operate and create their own shot. Post players can only do so much.

BTW - Duncan is more than deserving of top 60, probably top 25, just not "best of all time" like some of you see it...

Give the guy 1 or 2 more titles, and to me he gets put in the top 10.

[ro_50]

atownspursfan,

Start watching some basketball and maybe then, you will get a freaking clue.

[Supernatural Anesthetist]

Originally Posted by BlitzKriegBop

This is the only thing i can partially agree with you on, especially with tim's woeful ft shooting. Nevertheless, given that he plays in the post a lot, he will not get many good looks in the final seconds of a game. Aside from hakeem, who had PLENTY of clutch shootesr around him, those other players you mentioned were all guards. They have more room to operate and create their own shot. Post players can only do so much.

How can someone have watched the 4th quarter of game 7 in the finals last year and still doubt Duncans clutchness...I'm just flabbergasted.

[Jason R]

Don't quote me and then post that crap.