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Old 07-22-05, 11:11 AM
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SA and Magloire

I am sitting here thinking of ways that we could land Magloire and ship out Rasho, because Magloire seems to be the only piece that doesn't fit the Hornets rebuilding roster (besides PJ Brown).

There are a lot of potential variations on this completely fabricated deal, but the core of it is this:

Magloire to SA
Rasho + Scola to ATL
ATL first rounder to NO

Both of these teams have a lot of commodities, so this trade could be levelled to even it up.

Or throw out a different trade scenario that might get us Magloire.
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Old 07-22-05, 11:13 AM
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at this point we don't need Magloire with nazr, rasho and oberto we need a SF
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Old 07-22-05, 11:29 AM
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at this point we don't need Magloire with nazr, rasho and oberto we need a SF
Right.

And if we landed Magloire in the same trade that showed Rasho the door, we have a starting center alongside Tim for the next couple of years, and we don't have to worry about Nazr leaving to the highest bidder next summer.

Sounds attractive to me.

I doubt it will actually happen. With the Hawks having no clue what they want this summer, Magloire being a BYC player, and Scola's contract issues, odds are that this will never even be discussed.
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Old 07-22-05, 11:51 AM
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Yet another attempt on your part to trade Rasho. Yawn.

How you doing, Don?
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Old 07-22-05, 12:12 PM
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I can't see Atlanta giving up a 1st round pick. That could be the #1 overall.

Unless it's protected.
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Old 07-22-05, 12:14 PM
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Magloire to SA
Rasho + Scola to ATL
ATL first rounder to NO
If New Orleans would be willing to take a 1st round pick for Magloire why wouldn't they and Atlanta just cut us out of that picture and ship Magloire to Atlanta?
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Old 07-22-05, 12:35 PM
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good point...well the one thing ATL need is bigs to be honest...they also have a glut in terms of young wing talent. I feel like they'd be more willing to ship Harrington out for a big and might be willing to send a pick (assuming they had multiples) for a point guard too.
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Old 07-22-05, 12:36 PM
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If New Orleans would be willing to take a 1st round pick for Magloire why wouldn't they and Atlanta just cut us out of that picture and ship Magloire to Atlanta?
b/c in the logic of some poster it is the priority of all other teams to make the spurs better in the first place and then work for their own team.
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Old 07-22-05, 12:37 PM
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maglorie would be very nice tho.. but the chance of us getting him is very slim.
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Old 07-22-05, 01:47 PM
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b/c in the logic of some poster it is the priority of all other teams to make the spurs better in the first place and then work for their own team.
You called it.

Actually, because Scola is a steal for a rebuilding team with plenty of caproom willing to give him 4 million for the chance that he becomes a solid player. That's why they take Rasho + Scola instead of just Magloire.

Theoretically.

User name, I think your attempts to bash other posters are more harmful to the boards than people talking about trading Rasho. By the way, little surprise that the Spurs are taking on the position that I talked about in that earlier thread: open to trading, but only for the right return. But I guess it's fair game to talk about it now that the FO has supported it. Homer.
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Old 07-22-05, 01:52 PM
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b/c in the logic of some poster it is the priority of all other teams to make the spurs better in the first place and then work for their own team.
The one thing that most people don't realize is that a deal has to be pretty sweet for all parties involved. Sweetners include: 1) smaller payroll 2) filling a need (real or imagined) 3) tradeable commodities (picks, last year of a contract, etc.) 4) Dumping a grumpy player

Atlanta's needs are at the point guard, power forward, and center positions. Any trades they would make would be with an eye toward solidifying those areas. They also happen to be far unter the cap. If the Spurs were interested in giving Atlanta Rasho and Scola for something the Spurs wanted, Atlanta would be more likely to consider an offer.

New Orleans is shopping Magloire and would liekly need another center to replace him as well as depth at the swing positions (2-3). Thus, New Orleans would likely give Atlanta a PG like Speedy Claxton or Dan Dickau in exchange for some swing depth.

San Antonio would want to lose Rasho's contract while getting a quality big in exchange.

So the breakdown,

San Antonio:
Sends: Rasho, Scola to the Hawks
Receives: Magloire form NO

New Orleans:
Sends: Magloire to SA and Speedy Claxton to ATL
Receives: Jason Collier and Josh Childress

Atlanta:
Sends: Collier and Childress to NO
Receives: Claxton from NO, Rasho, Scola from SA

Too bad the salaries likely wouldn't work.

In all honesty, Atlanta would probably ship Childress and Collier for Claxton and Magloire in hearbeat.

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Old 07-22-05, 02:51 PM
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The only thing worse than bad trades are bad trades that don't work under the CBA. Atlease use RealGM.com to make it work. If the Spurs were not willing to move Rasho for SAR what makes anyone think they will for Magalore who has a huge contract
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Old 07-22-05, 04:10 PM
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The only thing worse than bad trades are bad trades that don't work under the CBA. Atlease use RealGM.com to make it work. If the Spurs were not willing to move Rasho for SAR what makes anyone think they will for Magalore who has a huge contract
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Both of these teams have a lot of commodities, so this trade could be levelled to even it up
Considering:

1. The amount of people that the Hawks and Hornets consider expendable.
2. The more flexible CBA rules for salary differences in trades and
3. The fact that the Hornets probably just want picks and small contracts as they are in total rebuild mode,

Magloire shouldn't be hard to move within the cap. In fact, that is part of the fun in this post...figuring out which deals would work under the cap and how we would work the variations.
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Old 07-22-05, 04:30 PM
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it be nice considering the fact that scola is already mad at us
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Old 07-22-05, 04:33 PM
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By the way, little surprise that the Spurs are taking on the position that I talked about in that earlier thread: open to trading, but only for the right return.
The Spurs are OPEN to trading everyone not named Tim Duncan for the right return- it is just your possible returns that are the joke. Your trade scenarios make no sense and most are not even allowable.
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Old 07-22-05, 04:35 PM
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i think right now i'd rather have nazr, he can start and do the same things magloire can do. Last year before his injury nazr was on his way (possibly)to the all star game and was close to averaging a double double, i think we should go after a 3.
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Old 07-22-05, 09:31 PM
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Rasho and Jamaal Magliore make around the same range. How about

Rasho and Devin Brown for Jamaal Magliore

Trade works because salaries are similar and we have the kentucky duo of Jamaal and Nazr. Both guys are great friends.
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Old 07-24-05, 12:02 PM
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Your trade scenarios make no sense and most are not even allowable.
Great analysis. I didn't even suggest a specific trade, so it's hard to conclude that the salaries don't match.

And I don't think the Hornets would be willing to trade Magloire for another big with a similar contract. They are probably looking to add draft picks and young talent.

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