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Old 07-18-05, 05:10 PM
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Michael Finley: It would be HUGE 4 Us

People have posted threads about Michael Finley being a Free Agent, but I wanted to reiterate how great of a pick up this could be potentially for the Spurs. The guy can still play. While he isn't an All Star anymore, he would challenge Barry and Devin (If we re-sign him) for minutes.

Does anyone know if he has shown interest privately to perhaps playing for the Spurs ?

Now that we our deep at the 4 and 5, I think it would be nice to get some help at the 2 an 3.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:12 PM
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If he is released by the Mavs the rumor is he will reunite with Nash in Phoenix as reported by the Associated Press July 15.

Updated: July 15, 2005, 8:23 PM ET
Amnesty clause offers Mavs a potential outAssociated Press


DALLAS -- As much as the Dallas Mavericks appreciate what Michael Finley has done for their franchise, simple economics make it likely they will soon say goodbye to their longtime leader............

.........The bright side for Finley is that he would get to pick his next team -- perhaps reuniting with Nash in Phoenix, where he began his career until being traded to Dallas for Jason Kidd, or maybe returning to his hometown, Chicago.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2109127

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phx can have him, he's washed up. he never knew how to play D and his O is almost gone
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he's washed up. he never knew how to play D and his O is almost gone
Prepare youself. I said the same thing once and got flamed.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:16 PM
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If he is released by the Mavs the rumor is he will reunite with Nash in Phoenix.
Just what the Suns need, another streak shooter.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:20 PM
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Prepare youself. I said the same thing once and got flamed.
that's fine. people are always evaluating players on their own fond memories instead of the facts. I dont have patience to argue with these types as they dont listen to logic
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Old 07-18-05, 05:22 PM
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Finley is still a good player. If you sign him, you're not signing him for what he did in 1996. You're signing him because he's a veteran who can still shoot the ball.
No one would have wanted to sign Big Dog for the same reasons, but I thought he was an OK pickup. Players who have never played defense suddenly learn how to when they are on a team with a good defensive foundation. And it's no accident.
I'm not sure if Finley would be the kind of player who could crack the regular rotation, but I wouldn't mind seeing him here.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:40 PM
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i think the spurs would benefit more from finley then phx would, but i dont really care where he goes because he is washed up.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:44 PM
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Finley is still a good player. If you sign him, you're not signing him for what he did in 1996. You're signing him because he's a veteran who can still shoot the ball.
No one would have wanted to sign Big Dog for the same reasons, but I thought he was an OK pickup. Players who have never played defense suddenly learn how to when they are on a team with a good defensive foundation. And it's no accident.
I'm not sure if Finley would be the kind of player who could crack the regular rotation, but I wouldn't mind seeing him here.
did you actually watch the suns-mavs series? finley was terrible in that series as a starter (with the exception of game 2). so what makes you think less playing time will make him better.
go back and look at finleys shooting % for the playoffs, he is done. he faded against the suns scoring 11, 9 , 7, 7 in the last 4 games playing around 32 mpg. please show me how he is not done
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Old 07-18-05, 05:48 PM
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Good luck getting him to sign somewhere for the vet minnimum.

If he wants more than that? No thanks.
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Old 07-18-05, 05:56 PM
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i dont think we need him that much, id rather have a bulky sf, if we didnt have barry, id be all about it
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Old 07-18-05, 05:58 PM
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Don't need or want him.
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Do you think Finley would accept come off the bench?
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Old 07-18-05, 06:04 PM
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did you actually watch the suns-mavs series? finley was terrible in that series as a starter (with the exception of game 2). so what makes you think less playing time will make him better.
Repeat this, plug in Horry for Finley, and Spurs-Lakers '03 for suns-mavs.
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Do you think Finley would accept come off the bench?
Of course he would.
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Old 07-18-05, 06:13 PM
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I just dont see the Spurs getting Finley.
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Of course he would.
So I think the Spurs should offer the rest of the MLE to get him
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Old 07-18-05, 06:26 PM
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I personally think he would be an excellent option. You have to remember that you are evaluating his past performance as a starter. If he comes off the bench, he will be fresh and give more of his all for that time that he is on the floor instead of having to save his energy for the rest of the game. Almost what Horry does for the Spurs in the playoffs as he pretty much coasted during the regular season.

I don't know how he would match up in terms of comparing to Barry or Devin, but he would be a great bench player that spells Devin if he does leave. Besides, he is still an excellent shooter and immediate scorer who just happens to shoot a high FT%. That sounds good to me for the min. It could be a possibility since he is a local resident of Texas although I could see him going to the Suns.
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As other have said he won't come here over a combination of playing time and $, but the Spurs should still lob him a phonecall. He's not nearly what he once was, but he's still got some game left in him. If for some unforseen reason he did want to come here for vet min it's a no brainer to pick him up.
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Old 07-18-05, 06:34 PM
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did you actually watch the suns-mavs series? finley was terrible in that series as a starter (with the exception of game 2). so what makes you think less playing time will make him better.
go back and look at finleys shooting % for the playoffs, he is done. he faded against the suns scoring 11, 9 , 7, 7 in the last 4 games playing around 32 mpg. please show me how he is not done
Maybe he played too many minutes during the season (36.8 MPG)? I wouldn't go and say he's done. He!!, people thought Big Dog was done, yet he was useful. Last year statically was Finley lowest scoring average (15.6 PPG) since 96-97 (15.0 PPG). Hey, this was even Timmy's lowest scoring average (20.3), of the season since he's been in the league. Does that mean he's washed up?

I agree if we have the opportunity to sign him, it's a no brainer. IMO
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Old 07-18-05, 06:49 PM
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Maybe he played too many minutes during the season (36.8 MPG)? I wouldn't go and say he's done. He!!, people thought Big Dog was done, yet he was useful. Last year statically was Finley lowest scoring average (15.6 PPG) since 96-97 (15.0 PPG). Hey, this was even Timmy's lowest scoring average (20.3), of the season since he's been in the league. Does that mean he's washed up?

I agree if we have the opportunity to sign him, it's a no brainer. IMO
I agree also. I think you have to give Finley a little slack because he did have a few nagging injuries last year that really hampered him. And as we all know, injuries sometimes affect a player in terms of basketball shape and how they perform. It all depends on the player but I know for a fact he was going through some hamstring and ankle injuries during the year and near the end of the year too. You can't say that it didn't have some effect on him.
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Does Oberto have the same agent as Scola? If so, this can dramatically effect negotiations.

Any chance Spurs bring them both over?
Have we not tied up half the MLE exception on Oberto ?
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the same people saying Finley is washed up are probably the same guys who thought Horry was washed up, thank god the spurs FO didn't listen to you 2 years ago.
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no scola has a different agent, oberto has the same agent as manu herb rudoy (I believe thats his name) as for finely i just find his game at this stage of his career too similar to barry, and would take a healthy devon over finely at this stage of his career and there is no way all three of them will be on the roster, finely wants to play.

my bad typo finley not finely
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Yet another reason I love Cubes... he seizes opportunities to right his wrongs.

I'm over it. The AJ youth movement is underway. 'Quis time to earn your paycheck buddy.

Mike Finley is not Bigshot Bob. Mike Finley is Allan Houston.
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If Mike Finley joins the Spurs for 99¢, I won't complain; my trust in the Spurs' front office is the highest it has ever been.

I'd rather have James Posey though. I'm beginning to warm up to the idea of Posey becoming Bowen's apprentice.
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I don't know that Finley and Bowen would be fast friends given their on-court past... ( although Fin would likely love to never be defended by Bruce again. ) As far as him going back to Phx or Chi-town, that sounded like the AP writer's speculation, not Finley's.
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He had serious ankle problems all last season and had surgery when the season ended. Expect him to have much more bounce in his game than he did last season no matter where he is. He's definitely better than LJIII and Devin Brown. He'd be a great pickup to spread the defense.
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Money isn't really an issue. He's still getting that 51 million regardless. It's not like that just barely makes it to feed the children.

He'll likely go to a team that has a good chance of winning. Phoenix is a very probable place.

If, which is very unlikey, he became a Spur, the team would benefit greatly from him coming off the bench. He's very dependable and is a good free throw shooter. And his defense is atleast decent, and if you stick him in a good team defense, he can do fine. Ask Glen Robinson about that one.

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I'd rather have James Posey though. I'm beginning to warm up to the idea of Posey becoming Bowen's apprentice.
A year + player option left for him though. Only through trade can we get him. I don't think its impossible if you dangle Nazr, which Spurs likely won't want to pay the big money he should get offered(unless they trade Rasho-don't want to pay two centers more than 5mill a year).
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Analysis at its best.
Good reply

I think that Finley will make a lot more sense for the Suns.....after Joe Johnson signs with Atlanta.
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If a player of Finley's caliber comes along, you make the effort to get him. No questions asked. Even if his "caliber" isn't quite what it used to be. He was at one time one of the NBA's most deadly shooters.

And due to the new CBA's one time amnesty rule, if you can pick up a max contract player for only a couple $million, you do it.

Ask yourself this.......late 4th quarter....Duncan is struggling, Parker cannot get in the lane or penetrate.....Barry is shooting bricks.....Manu ican't do it all by himself....Spurs can't hit the broad side of a barn.......would it not be nice to have a Finley making things interesting?

Spurs have a good history of taking good players at or near the end of their career and maximizing their productivity.

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I'd love to see Finley as a Spur. The Spurs need a SF and they won't get someone better than Finley unless they work out a trade.
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Pipe dream. Finley's ego won't let him get past the SBC doors.

You really think Finley is going to accept a role off the bench? Don't think so.
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Pipe dream. Finley's ego won't let him get past the SBC doors.

You really think Finley is going to accept a role off the bench? Don't think so.
Finley's never been an egotistical twit, and only an egotistical twit assumes they will be a starter their entire career. I'd be surprised if he didn't acknowledge that he's old in NBA terms. I think overall, Mike is a smart enough guy to "get over himself."

But he'll never be a Spur, for different reasons.
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If a player of Finley's caliber comes along, you make the effort to get him. No questions asked. Even if his "caliber" isn't quite what it used to be. He was at one time one of the NBA's most deadly shooters.

Ask yourself this.......late 4th quarter....Duncan is struggling, Parker cannot get in the lane or penetrate.....Barry is shooting bricks.....Manu ican't do it all by himself....Spurs can't hit the broad side of a barn.......would it not be nice to have a Finley making things interesting?

Spurs have a good history of taking good players at or near the end of their career and maximizing their productivity.

which is why i am baffled to see that Glenn Robinson is still not signed. He is a much better scorer than Finley and showed flashes of what could be if he has an entire season to get used to his new team.
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which is why i am baffled to see that Glenn Robinson is still not signed. He is a much better scorer than Finley and showed flashes of what could be if he has an entire season to get used to his new team.
Does Robinson even want to stay? I'm sure Spurs haven't seen enough of him to give him anything too big. And then after July 22nd, when people can be signed, more things will make sense.
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The Mavs don't want this clown for a reason. Let him go. The further away, the better.
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A lot of these criticisms could have been levelled at Big Dog and yet he panned out just fine. As long as the contract is feasible I'd love him as a veteran player.
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Make sure Finley's locker is right next to Bruce's.
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which is why i am baffled to see that Glenn Robinson is still not signed. He is a much better scorer than Finley and showed flashes of what could be if he has an entire season to get used to his new team.
I don't know how much Big Dog is asking, but he probably can get a $5-7-9 million dollar contract, somewhere. Ask yourself: How much would Isaiah Thomas overpay for him?

Whereas Finley......we could sign for the minimum (Since he'll be drawing a check from Dallas still)

Plus, Finly can create his own shot better than Big Dog, who's more of a Barry type spot up shooter.
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Does Robinson even want to stay? I'm sure Spurs haven't seen enough of him to give him anything too big. And then after July 22nd, when people can be signed, more things will make sense.

Yes, he does.

He's not high on the Spurs list though.

Devin, GRob and Linton are all on hold right now awaiting what happens now until July 22nd.
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the same people saying Finley is washed up are probably the same guys who thought Horry was washed up, thank god the spurs FO didn't listen to you 2 years ago.
just how many big shots or championships does finley have again?
fins washed up, no way would I compare him to Horry

I actually thought Horry was way over used by PJ his last year in LA. he played 40+ his last season in LA compared to ~36 by finley. I really liked the idea of the Spurs getting Horry and was only disappointed when Horry faded in 04.
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Hasn't Finley made a career of playoff disappearing acts? No thanks.
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Hasn't Finley made a career of playoff disappearing acts? No thanks.
YUP! I doubt he wants to come here anyway. I think he wants to play with little Stevie in PHX anyway.
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Prepare youself. I said the same thing once and got flamed.
a guy who averaged 16,4 and 4 and 40% from three is not washed up....Is Manu washed up?
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a guy who averaged 16,4 and 4 and 40% from three is not washed up....Is Manu washed up?
but in the playoffs.......
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Finley was injured last season, he had bone spurs removed recently which is way he had such an off year (if you wanna call it that) last season.
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he averaged the same..he is a career 16PPG scorer in the playoffs and has shot 40% from three for his career...he has never been a superstar but he has always be soild in the season and playoffs
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