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Old 06-24-18, 10:57 AM
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The money Kawhi stands to lose

Whoever has taken control of Kawhi's mind must have a pretty strong hold. Here is a breakdown of the money Kawhi stands to lose based on the decision he makes.

If he stays with the Spurs he will make 43.8 million for the next 5 years, AND all of his future contracts will be raises on top of that 43.8 million.

If he gets traded his max contract drops to 37.6 million for the next 5 years.

If he waits it out and becomes a free agent his max contract can only be 4 years and 34.25 million.

So now let us work backwards

If he becomes a free agent he will lose 38.2 million dollars over 4 years AND all future contracts will be 22% less than they would be if he stayed.

If he gets traded he will lose 31 million over 5 years and all future contracts will be 14% less than they would be if he stayed.

Total losses over his career (assuming he plays until he is 39 and gets two more max contracts)

Free agent - 125 million
Traded - 80 Million

So Kawhi,
Stop being brainwashed.
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Old 06-24-18, 11:14 AM
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And also factor in that Texas has no state income tax. Whoever (or whomever) his handler is sure must be homesick for California. No offense, Chopps.
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Old 06-24-18, 11:22 AM
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And also factor in that Texas has no state income tax. Whoever (or whomever) his handler is sure must be homesick for California. No offense, Chopps.
I have been homesick for Texas for 8 years now.

I will be in S. A. next week for my annual vacation from the Socialist State of California.
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Old 06-24-18, 01:02 PM
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It's funny that he seems to not care about the money...But he sure as hell had a issue with the lack of money from his Jordan shoe deal! So I'm sure he cares about the super max...he's just probably weighing on whether he wants to deal with teammates that might not be there for many more years or a fat a$$ check. 43.8 million a year isn't chump change. Which I believe will be the richest contract to date.
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Old 06-24-18, 03:40 PM
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I gotta wonder if Leonard has ever understood the concept of 'getting your priorities straight'.
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Old 06-24-18, 04:39 PM
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His brand would be bigger...if he wasn't a Mute. No one wants to market someone that doesn't put their self out there. He's in the wrong era (social media) to be quite. There's no excuse...he can reach fans everywhere through social media. And until he figured out his voice is just as important as his game, he'll always be 2nd or 3rd in the endorsement end of things. Hell...Kobe was almost accused for rape and he wasn't the greatest person to play with as a teammate. Yet, he's one of the more successful guys in the business. He lost endorsements then got then back. Being in San Antonio isn't holding him back in that aspect.
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Old 06-24-18, 09:34 PM
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it's not all about the money for him. he's no greedy.
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Old 06-25-18, 12:37 AM
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Yet still...he wasn't happy with his Jordan deal. Felt he wasn't being paid like guys like Westbrook, Melo or Griffin.
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Old 06-25-18, 01:49 AM
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Once you have a taste of fame and fortune you just can't get enough. However, I do not speak from experience but I do play my lotto cards religiously.
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Old 06-25-18, 02:30 PM
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If they don't take the Laker trade...I think they're going to be in bad shape. Kawhi and Co. has made it known that's where he wants to be. Other teams will not offer anything close to Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and a pick, plus Deng. Teams will know that Kawhi couldn't be talked into $219 million dollars...so why do they think they can talk him into a place where he doesn't want to be & for less than a super max. Obviously he's incredibly difficult to talk to. Just too many barriers with him...too much whispering and plotting. Plus what was that injury all about. The guy has never played close to a full season.

I know it'll suck to deal with the Lakers, but they have the best deal that I believe is going to be available...due to the unwillingness of Kawhi to try and hash things out with the Spurs. And screwing them on the way out.
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Old 06-25-18, 03:12 PM
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You now, in my own cynical way, I think the Lakers know the ‘whole’ story on Leonard and probably know more than the Spurs. Funny how writers are getting the notion that other potential Leonard landing spots and their GMs don’t have the stones or where with all to negotiate or sweet talk Leonard into staying. Almost seems like somebody is feeding the sports writers this info and, to me, it has a western coast flavor. The paths are getting narrower and all seem to point to the Lakers. But the key to the Laker deal is getting rid of that Deng contract, otherwise, the multiple supermax contracts Magic Johnson has wished for under ‘his’ Christmas tree get fewer and fewer. The Lakers need this trade or possibly go thru next season with probably only James and another lottery or even 41-41 team. However, Pop and RC have sat at many a poker table during their tenure with the Spurs and I’m standing pat behind them to make the right bet.
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But I'm antsy at the same time hoping that we (the Spurs and their fans) don't get screwed over this.
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Old 06-25-18, 05:26 PM
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But I'm antsy at the same time hoping that we (the Spurs and their fans) don't get screwed over this.
Yes...I've got the same ants in my pants too...I do NOT want my beloved team to get the shaft, just because they're not willing trade to the West (Lakers). The Spurs are the best at turning coal into diamonds. Kuzma more so than Ingram, but both would thrive here. Get him away from Lonzo & around some real professionals.

Cause as much as I want Kawhi here...I'm excited to see what those 2 guys can be transformed into. Just wish Chad Forcier was still here. But they still have the greatest shot coach of all time.
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Old 06-25-18, 09:56 PM
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I liked Forcier too. I wish they had Chip Enggelund signed to a lifetime contract.
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Old 06-25-18, 10:01 PM
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One guy I'd love to get to the Spurs is Julius Randle (RFA). If we were to sign him to an offer sheet early in free agency, the Lakers have a certain period of time they would have to match but since Magic wants to clear cap space for his future supermax players, the Lakers probably don't match the offer. Just a thought.
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Old 06-25-18, 10:31 PM
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If Kawhi was lost to the Lakers...I'd take Ingram, Kuzma, sign & trade of Randle. Alex Len or Dwight Howard for a cheap 1+1. Stephenson or Barton. But have to get rid of Mills and or Gasol.
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yay! danny green is staying. at least we got that. good contract for this day and age, relatively speaking. still not old at 31. at least someone wants to stay and play in san antonio. brings him to the top level of fan list if you like me. i know a lot of others would rather diss players who like to stick around cause they can't shoot threes anymore though. lol.
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Old 06-26-18, 01:41 PM
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I agree...he can still D up. Offense really stalled without Kawhi. Probably why his 3 point shot fell off. Plus no Tony creating early in the season to. He's banking on getting taken care of like the Spurs always do to those who sacrifice. Ala Manu, Gasol.
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Old 06-26-18, 02:31 PM
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big gamble, given pops retiring in 2020 and spurs falling apart. but yeah, he continues to work. added the drive to his game, which i think is also part of why his 3 went down (he was working all season on his drive vs 3 thought process and practice rather than jst focusing on 3s). has minimum of 3 good years left in him. minimum i say, likely more. not injury prone, count on him being there.
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Old 06-26-18, 06:40 PM
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You know, if you reflect on this past season, even though the Spurs didn't hit the 50 win mark, they did register a respectable 47-35 record, and that's without Leonard for practically the whole season. I got a feeling we will do better this coming season.
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Old 06-26-18, 11:39 PM
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You know, if you reflect on this past season, even though the Spurs didn't hit the 50 win mark, they did register a respectable 47-35 record, and that's without Leonard for practically the whole season. I got a feeling we will do better this coming season.
oh yeah. murray one more year in.
parker healthy.
team not "waiting" for kawhi every week, knowing they got to play.

back to 50!
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oh yeah. murray one more year in.
parker healthy.
team not "waiting" for kawhi every week, knowing they got to play.

back to 50!
maybe we get back to 50 wins but so what? Will you really be satisfied with that? We are used to winning championships or having a team that can. Winning 50 with the team we have means we are stuck in purgatory between not having a shot at the championship and not getting a chance to rebuild in the lottery.
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Old 06-27-18, 12:22 PM
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ill be happy when tim duncans back! td21-4ever 💜

well every year only one team gets to win. w super teams trend, its not gonna be san antonio everyones lining up to play for. so im hoping to still watch fun, well executed spurs bball, and being entertained. 50 wins means teams pretty good playing the right wat despite no superstar.
or spurs call, they can strip the team and try to get lottery picks. watever. in the end, they will get their millions of dollars, and i gotta head off for work. but i hope to be able to watch basketball and be entertained by the spurs.
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Lakers getting pressured...give us Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, multiple first round picks...sign and trade with Randle to match Gasol, no Lou Deng! Talk Dwight Howard or DeAndre Jordan into a 1+1yr player option. I'm just about over this situation.
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https://basketball.realgm.com/tradec..._trade/7078272

Kawhi Leonard - Anthony Davis

NOLA can play w Demarcus cousins and Leonard.
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Kawhi Leonard - Anthony Davis

NOLA can play w Demarcus cousins and Leonard.
LOL . . . I would love that deal, but NOLA can't risk Kawhi leaving for LA at the end of next season.
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i think its clear that we all can agree that kawhi wants to leave. even if we haven't "heard it from him" clearly he's not planning to be a man anytime soon and speak for himself. lol.

can't wait for the spurs to be done w it. bring in who's neXt!
hoping for a good deal of course, whatever happens.

its a delicate situation. clearly teams like lakers dont wanna 'miss out' and we may be able to get more now. but as more time passes and the season starts, the value will clearly drop and spurs will be the losers. so its key to time it just right and not miss out on an opportunity. best of luck to front office.
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Lakers getting pressured...give us Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, multiple first round picks...sign and trade with Randle to match Gasol, no Lou Deng! Talk Dwight Howard or DeAndre Jordan into a 1+1yr player option. I'm just about over this situation.
Now all I'm hearing is Leonard is 'adament' about being traded to the Lakers. Wow, is Leonard on steroids because sounds like he's trying to grow a pair. He must not want to miss out playing with his new playground friend, Lebron. I hope Pop and RC gut the Lakers and show Leonard the door. I'm starting to get sick of the sound of his name ---- can't say sick from the sound of his voice because we haven't heard that since the 2016-2017 season and HEB commercials. I'll have to delete those from my PC too.


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You do know that when all the smoke has cleared and when Leonard is in LA with his bud, Lebron, the LA media will paint the Spurs organization as villains and Leonard as the innocent victim, which he’s is portrayed now in some areas. I just hate the fact that Leonard just didn’t go to Pop/RC and tell them he wanted a trade rather than push it in the media. I know, trust issues. Very sad situation. I guess some of the other teams throughout the league have had the same situation thrown upon them by their own overpaid prima donnas, wanting trades or expensive extensions of contracts and playing it all out in the media.
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I understand the fact that Spurs dont want to deal with anyone in west. But what's the point of taking a lesser deal to ship him east, for him to sign with LA in a year. Much worse is he signs with Lakers next year with Lebron, PG, kuzma, Ingram, lonzo, Randle, hart plus future picks still there. Now that's a super team lol.

Trade him and u can at least grab kuzma , hart, Ingram and picks!
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you guys planning on burning jerseys and doing crazy lebron-cavs fan stuff?
over under on number of jerseys burned.
do consider they are expensive and burning is a big waste of ur own money, consider selling. or keeing to remwmber the ‘good ole days’
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you guys planning on burning jerseys and doing crazy lebron-cavs fan stuff?
over under on number of jerseys burned.
do consider they are expensive and burning is a big waste of ur own money, consider selling. or keeing to remwmber the ‘good ole days’
Funny I was talking to my son about this recently. He is actually pissed off enough to burn his jersey but I did remind him like it or not Kawhi is a part of Spurs history. I think about the lunacy of all those Boston fans who burned IT jerseys even though IT really didn't instigate the trade at all. Just got to remember, being a FAN is short for FANATIC.
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Funny I was talking to my son about this recently. He is actually pissed off enough to burn his jersey but I did remind him like it or not Kawhi is a part of Spurs history. I think about the lunacy of all those Boston fans who burned IT jerseys even though IT really didn't instigate the trade at all. Just got to remember, being a FAN is short for FANATIC.
anyone burning full price jerseys is making to much money lol. sell them or donate them to charity.
true, he also his very much part of spurs history. 6 years, finals mvp. we wouldn't have won number 5 without him, thats for sure.
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"I'm hearing that Kawhi Leonard isn't that enamored with the thought of coming to L.A. with LeBron," said Stephen A. Smith. "Not because of LeBron himself the person or the basketball player, but because of the paparazzi like atmosphere he will ultimately create in L.A. Kawhi ain't built that way. Kawhi is not the type of player that wants to be a part of all that.


hhaha.
this is all jst getting hilarious. anyone w a account is jst writinc.
lebron or not, los angeles is going to be paparazzi kawhi. haha

plus lavar ball oh man!
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............."I'm hearing that Kawhi Leonard isn't that enamored with the thought of coming to L.A. with LeBron," said Stephen A. Smith. "Not because of LeBron himself the person or the basketball player, but because of the paparazzi like atmosphere he will ultimately create in L.A. Kawhi ain't built that way. Kawhi is not the type of player that wants to be a part of all that.......

Geez, I gotta wonder why Leonard’s people didn’t advise him of this little tidbit. Oh, I forgot, Leonard doesn’t have an agent to rely on. Paparazzi is an everyday event in LA, particularly when you’re in the news and Leonard is now news and would be expected to carry the team should LA get him in a trade. Aren’t you glad ‘your people’ leaked your desires to the press. Sorry Leonard, you started it, you get to live with it, not just you but anybody you hold dearly in your life. They’re all targets to the flash and cameras. When you’re traded and say good-bye to San Antonio, just remember what you had here and what you’re giving up. Wave bye bye.
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"I'm hearing that Kawhi Leonard isn't that enamored with the thought of coming to L.A. with LeBron," said Stephen A. Smith. "Not because of LeBron himself the person or the basketball player, but because of the paparazzi like atmosphere he will ultimately create in L.A. Kawhi ain't built that way. Kawhi is not the type of player that wants to be a part of all that.


hhaha.
this is all jst getting hilarious. anyone w a account is jst writinc.
lebron or not, los angeles is going to be paparazzi kawhi. haha

plus lavar ball oh man!
This is just becoming comical now.

In any event, hopefully this doesn't get out there as anything big because it opens the door even more to bring Boston and 76ers in the mix for a trade and at the same time make the Lakers hurry up and give up even more to get him

Where is that eating popcorn emoticon when you need it lol!
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If Kawhi thought he would come back home without any fanfare/paparazzi, he is sorely lost within himself.
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