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Old 07-23-14, 01:57 PM
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar training Roy Hibbert

Roy Hibbert with a skyhook?

Pacers president and former Celtic Larry Bird apparently dined with his old Lakers rival, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, in the name of helping Indiana’s center.

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Dinner with @kaj33 and Larry was great. Loved hearing their stories. Learned so much and asked a lot of questions.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

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Pacer fans get ready for next season. I’m helping to get Roy ready to become a serious threat to his competitors.
If Abdul-Jabbar helps diversifies Hibbert’s offense, that would be wonderful for the wayward Pacers big man. However, I believe most of these arrangements are overrated. If Abdul-Jabbar could unilaterally translate his skills onto Hibbert, the best players would make the best coaches, and the pupil wouldn’t matter.

It obviously doesn’t work that way.

The Pacers should hope Abdul-Jabbar instills some confidence in Hibbert. After Hibbert’s disastrous playoffs, that would be more than enough to make this partnership worthwhile.

Don’t overlook Abdul-Jabbar’s value due to his sharp mental approach. Hibbert needs that more than a skyhook – though a skyhook would be nice, too.

Link: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar training Roy Hibbert | ProBasketballTalk
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Old 07-23-14, 01:59 PM
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I wonder if Hibbert will come to Duncan's workout camp again this summer and show TD what he learned from Kareem?
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The man should be a beast in the post. That's fundamentals and mindset (because he had the height and length gifted to him). If he had some of Splitter's post moves he would be unstoppable.
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The man should be a beast in the post. That's fundamentals and mindset (because he had the height and length gifted to him). If he had some of Splitter's post moves he would be unstoppable.
Well I hope he learns his hook shot from Kareem and not Splitter.

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It always irks me that guys like Hibbert and Noah Kobe and Lebron seek help from legends like Duncan, Hakeem, and Kareem but a guy like Austin Daye or Perry Jones doesn't. Hoping Daye works with Duncan this offseason.
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Daye can't play Duncan's game. He'd get pushed around way too much. Conditioning-wise, that's another story. I'd love to see if he can push his speed up some with Timmy's conditioning regimen, then work with Bowen on D.
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Daye can't play Duncan's game. He'd get pushed around way too much. Conditioning-wise, that's another story. I'd love to see if he can push his speed up some with Timmy's conditioning regimen, then work with Bowen on D.
"Daye can't play Duncan's game" I was off the understanding that these training sessions were meant to teach the game of basketball. Kobe can't play Center but he worked with Hakeem. Lebron as a Center would be an undersized center (6'8) and he also worked with Hakeem. Even if Daye can't "play Duncan's game" can he not learn things like footwork, being in the right spot on defense, boxing out, even using his length in the post? Also, on a related but different note where did this notion that playing the PF/C position requires someone to be strong. Based off everything I've read and see about Kareem Abdul Jabbar he was not Shaq or Wilt in the post strenght-wise and he was essentially a finesse Center Kareem wasn't overpowering people down low. Getting pushed around is just as much about a strong base positioning as it it "strength".
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"Daye can't play Duncan's game" I was off the understanding that these training sessions were meant to teach the game of basketball. Kobe can't play Center but he worked with Hakeem. Lebron as a Center would be an undersized center (6'8) and he also worked with Hakeem. Even if Daye can't "play Duncan's game" can he not learn things like footwork, being in the right spot on defense, boxing out, even using his length in the post? Also, on a related but different note where did this notion that playing the PF/C position requires someone to be strong. Based off everything I've read and see about Kareem Abdul Jabbar he was not Shaq or Wilt in the post strenght-wise and he was essentially a finesse Center Kareem wasn't overpowering people down low. Getting pushed around is just as much about a strong base positioning as it it "strength".
Yes Kareem was a finesse player and had an amazing hook shot that was unstoppable and it was called the skyhook. Russel was sort of a finesse player as well and used his timing. tenacity and footwork to out-position Wilt.

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All those years of sleepless nights and painkillers from his bad back have Larry looking pretty bad. Kareem looks like he is growing a nice set of man boobs.
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If I remember correctly Kareem mentioned more than once how much he disliked playing against Artis Gilmore !!! He would get so frustrated trying to play against the A-Train !!! Artis would get into his head and take him out of his game . So did Lambeer but Lambeer didnt have the skills to play Kareem , he was just a thug so Kareem would eventually eat his lunch with skill... But not the A-Train !!!
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Hibbert did work with Timmy two summers ago, and that's when he really started becoming a presence for Indy. I agree he needs the mindset and discipline to be a good big man, but learning from Kareem is definitely going to help.

I think in a way it's a shift from how basketball was traditionally a forward centric , low post centric game, to now a perimeter based game. A kid who is over 6'6 in highschool is more willing to practice countless hours working on their handles, shot, and ability to drive in the lane and dunk, than anytime getting in the post, banging for rebounds, practicing drills of laying the ball in with each hand, and learning to play with their back to the basket. Even the best foreign big man doesn't have a great back to the basket game, they are more a facilitator.

Which makes these basic basketball principles, of back to the basket, facing up properly, light foot work, and anticipation of the ball for rebounds ; it makes this a lost art, and who ever can learn this will be a better basketball player without having to be the better athlete. I think this is why a 38 year old Timmy is still one of the most lethal forces in the league, no big man after him had the fundamentals to transition into low post presence.
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