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Old 06-17-14, 05:38 PM
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Ive been looking at the Free Agents pool for next season, and I really dont see realistic options out there that Id rather have over our current roster. Heres the list...

Free Agents we must take care of:
- Boris Diaw (Re sign him ASAP)
- Patty Mills (Try as best to bring him back)
- Aron Baynes (Bring him back if possible)
- Matt Bonner (Vet Min)
- Tim Duncan (Convince him to keep it going)

Free Agents in the Market that could potentially be interesting to look at (there are some in the list that would be great additions, but theres no chance either):

From Atlanta: None (Ayon, Brand, Mack, Martin, Scott)
From Boston: None (Joel Anthony, Bayless, Bradley, Humphries)
From Brooklyn: None (Anderson, Blatche, Collins, Kirilenko, Livingston, Pierce)
From Charlotte: None (Douglas-Roberts, Ben Gordon, McRoberts, Pargo, Ridnour, Tolliver, DJ White)
From Chicago: Id look at Fredette only if we cannot bring Patty back. (Augustin, Hinrich, Mohammed)
From Cleveland: None (Deng, Hawes, Miles)
From Dallas: Maybe Crowder (Blair, Carter, Harris, Bernard James, Marion, Nowitzki)
From Denver: Vesely? (Darrell Arthur is only 26 Id swear he was older, Brooks, Nate Robinson)
From Detroit: None (Billups, Jerebko, Monroe, Stuckey, Villanueva)
From Golden State: Crawford? (Blake, ONeal)
From Houston: Daniels? (Garcia, Hamilton, Parsons)
From Indiana: None (Lavoy Allen, Rasual Butler, Bynum, Stephenson, Turner)
From LA Clippers: None (Collison, Davis, Granger, Hollins, Turkoglu)
From LA Lakers: Gasol? Meeks? (Adrien, Bazemore, Brooks, Farmar, Henry, Hill, Johnson, Kaman, Kelly, Young)
From Memphis: None (Davis, Johnson, Miller, Randolph, Udrih)
From Miami: None (All their team)
From Milwaukee: None (Sessions, Udoh)
From Minnesotta: None (Cunningham, Hummel, Jeffers)
From New Orleans: Morrow? (Aminu, Miller, Roberts, Smith, Southerland)
From New York: None (Aldrich, Anthony, Bargnani, Martin, Murry, Stoudemire)
From OKC: Sefolosha? (Butler, Jerett)
From Orlando: None (Moore)
From Philadelphia: Mullens? (Richardson, Thomas)
From Phoenix: None (Barbosa, Bledsoe, Frye, Okafor, Tucker)
From Portland: Williams? (Watson)
From Sacramento: None (Cunningham, Gay, Gray, Thomas)
From Toronto: Vasquez? (De Colo, Lowry, Patterson)
From Utah: Hayward Id love here, but I guess its not realistic to have him coming off the bench behind Kawhi. (Jefferson, Rush, Williams)
From Washington: None (Ariza, Booker, Gooden, Gortat, Harrington, Seraphin, Singleton, Temple)

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Old 06-17-14, 10:21 PM
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The only position on our team that could get minutes would be a sg/sf or a sf/pf. I think we only have room for 1 addition. It would be nice if we got a draft pick that could make the team or if one of our European stash guys were ready to come over. It would be amazing if Gasol wanted to play for us for way less money than he could get elsewhere. It would also be nice id Daye was good enough to keep.

Ultimately, I don't see a free agent out there that fits on this team. I predict we spend most of our money on Diaw and Patty.
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Old 06-17-14, 10:45 PM
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The only addition I would make is a long, mobile pf/c like what they hoped Malcolm Thomas would be, in order to counter teams like OKC and LAC with big men who play above the rim.
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Old 06-17-14, 11:04 PM
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I had gone through the free agent list the other day myself and as you, Guille, didn’t see a lot that appealed to me. Of those I saw listed, these are the only ones that caught my attention and might warrant a second look if: (1) the price is right and (2) dependent on what the Spurs accomplish with our own free agents (Diaw, Mills, Duncan, Bonner, Baynes):

Channing Frye, player option, 2013-14 sal: 6.5 mil, 6-11, Phoenix
Spencer Hawes, unrestricted, 2013-14 sal: 6.5 mil, 7-1, Cleveland
Marcin Gortat, unrestricted, 2013-14 sal: 7.7 mil, -11, Washington
Greg Monroe, restricted, 2013-14 sal: 4.1, 6-11, Detroit
Pau Gasol, unrestricted, 2013-14 sal: 19 mil, 7-0, LA Lakers
Thabo Sefolosha, unrestricted, 2013-14 sal: 3.9, 6-7, OKC
Jodie Meeks, unrestricted, 2013-14 sal: 1.5 mil, 6-4, LA Lakers

This is supposed to be a deep draft coming up on 26 June and I'm thinking the Spurs best way to improve, if any, will be to cultivate their own through a draft pick and stash or through a sign and trade, if the situation were to come up during the Mills/Diaw negotiations (if we were not able to accomodate salary demands).
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Old 06-18-14, 12:03 AM
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That was my point exactly... I think it is more important to keep our guys than to go look for unproven in the system. And maybe we can get room for one addition: either draft, stashed or FA.
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Old 06-18-14, 12:04 AM
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If the Spurs are going to make another run with this team, I don't think they pick up someone in the draft. I see them trading their first round pick this year for a couple seconds or a future first next year. I think Bonner is gone as he rarely saw daylight this season or playoffs. Yeah, he knows the system, but we can find someone more athletic and with future potential to fill his role. Maybe Daye takes his spot on the bench.

I'm not sure Gasol works for us. He's not as good as Duncan and not that much better than Splitter if any to warrant cutting into Splitter's minutes. He may have a role as another passing big to play along side Diaw or in place of Diaw with Duncan or Splitter, but he'd be the 4th big in the rotation either way.

I don't think Sefolosha has a role here. Green and Kawhi are our primary defenders and they can both defend and score better than Sefolosha.

Fry is Bonner 2.0 or even Daye 10yrs later. He may have a role if we want our 4th big to spread the floor similar to Diaw. Small risk with potential.

Can't wait till draft day and July 1. I don't know why, nothing ever happens, but it's still fun to think about.
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You are smoking crack if you think Gasol is not much better than Splitter. Not sure on defensive end but on offense he is way better than Splitter. Dude has had multiple 17-18+ PPG seasons. Some of those with the Lakers even playing next to Kobe. Splitter is crafty around the rim and can score a little but I wouldn't call him a scorer. Gasol can be. With Duncan a year older I'm thinking the Spurs could use someone with some legit scoring in the post. Pipe dream really. Dude is going to get offered crazy money by someone.
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Old 06-18-14, 08:10 AM
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You are smoking crack if you think Gasol is not much better than Splitter. Not sure on defensive end but on offense he is way better than Splitter. Dude has had multiple 17-18+ PPG seasons. Some of those with the Lakers even playing next to Kobe. Splitter is crafty around the rim and can score a little but I wouldn't call him a scorer. Gasol can be. With Duncan a year older I'm thinking the Spurs could use someone with some legit scoring in the post. Pipe dream really. Dude is going to get offered crazy money by someone.
Gasol isn't going to be scoring 17+ PPG with any team no matter who he signs with. He is a great player, but at this exact momoment, and with the type of offense we play, I don't think he would be any more effective against someone like the Miami Heat than Splitter was. I also think there is zero chance he guards Dirk Nowitski and LaMarcus Aldridge as well as Splitter did.

Gasol would be awesome, but in our system and at his age I don't think he is better than Splitter.
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Old 06-18-14, 08:47 AM
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I think Gasol would be awesome, too, and it'd mean he'd be taking a massive pay cut to be playing w/ the right team (totally polar opposite to D'Antoni Lakers). And I don't view it as a skill set compared to Splitter's, but more compared to TD's 'cause you would bring in someone like Gasol to spell TD and keep down his wear and tear. If they had Gasol, they could probably even leave TD at home during some of their road trips and really preserve the mileage on his body until the playoffs. How awesome would that be?

I think the FO does an amazing job of putting contingency plans in place before they get caught with their pants down. Just like last year, we had Patty Mills under contract (for this year) in case Gary Neal got his payday (which he did), or Baynes in case Splitter signed elsewhere (which he obviously didn't). Similarly, I agree w/ some of above posts that Austin Daye seems to be effectively the insurance policy (or replacement) for Bonner.
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Old 06-18-14, 08:57 AM
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Gasol is much better finisher than Splitter and has a range.

But Splitter is a better defender than Gasol and that makes him important for us. We've 4 scoring option (5 if you count Green) and we don't need too much production in center position. Defense is much more important.

Moreover we have already Splitter-Duncan and Diaw in front-court. Do we really need to pay 7-8M to this position to get 22-23 minutes per night? Not sure.
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Old 06-18-14, 10:40 AM
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Resigning Diaw and Mills takes priority.

If we lost Mills, I would take a look at D Harris but I doubt Cuban would let him walk to SA

IMO,the Spurs struggled when Green/Leonard were in foul trouble against Mia. Dependent on the price, I would be interested in Sefolosha or Ariza. Ariza would cost more and expect to start so that would be out.

I am more worried about OKC. Which of the FAs really will help SA with that match-up.
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Old 06-18-14, 11:01 AM
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remember when new york nicks had chris childs and (damn forgot the other PG) and they played exact mid minutes? thats what i see from a gasol duncan tandem...

they, at this stage of their careers and due to all that weight lose from timmy, they bring similar qualities... i think gasol has sweet mid range shot and pass the ball damn pretty well... can deflect rim shots due lenght... he paired with splitter could be interesting...

unfortunately, the main need for spurs is a long athletic pf to be really unbeatable... already to many unathletic font liners...
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Old 06-18-14, 11:06 AM
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I think that if Gasol was willing to take a good size pay check it would benefit him and Duncan severely. Both players are nearing the end of their respective careers and together they could play half of each game and we would only be losing a little bit on the defensive end with Gasol. Small ball line ups with him as the only big would be an offensive juggernaut. But that is a bit of a pipe dream. I think the spurs need to worry about our free agents first and if there is money to look for some talent it would have to come in the form of a banger...The west is only getting tougher to compete in especially against the Clippers and Thunder with there front court.
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Old 06-18-14, 11:29 AM
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No more defensive specialists. Green and Leonard are enough. If you get too many defense guys who can't score, your offense bogs down. That is why OKC couldn't break through, because they only had Durant and Westbrook who could legitimately score. Gasol would be a great fit, because he could score against Ibaka in the post, and he has range to draw him out. But, like others have said, Gasol is a pipe dream. He has rings, so he's most likely going to go get his last paycheck.
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Old 06-18-14, 12:39 PM
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No more defensive specialists. Green and Leonard are enough. If you get too many defense guys who can't score, your offense bogs down. That is why OKC couldn't break through, because they only had Durant and Westbrook who could legitimately score. Gasol would be a great fit, because he could score against Ibaka in the post, and he has range to draw him out. But, like others have said, Gasol is a pipe dream. He has rings, so he's most likely going to go get his last paycheck.
He also said it be great to play with his brother or play with a team that has a great system... Hint, hint? He's just coming off a 17 million dollar deal... He's worth about 7-10 when healthy. I think he's a combo of Boris and Tiago, can score in the post, pass, defend the post, pick and pop/roll and occasionally hit a corner three
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I haven't been a Pau Gasol fan in the past but if he drops his asking price and the Spurs could cover it, I could see a nice Gasol/Duncan tandem working. Given his athletic abilities, though they may have slowed a little, he's still a dangerous guy at 7' and has a killer midrange shot. And knowing that the Spurs want him and this could be his last hurrah with a class organization, he just might give us that extra push for another run at the title. A nice story book ending................it's all up to Gasol and his agent and how much groceries they need to buy.
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Comparing Gasol to Tiago is like comparing apples to oranges. I would like to see both on the Spurs. Gasol is great offensive player in limited minutes however his body breaks down if asked to play too many minutes. Hopefully he can see the light, that the Spurs system will extend his career, and settle for less money.
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Yeah, Gasol is a far better offensive player who has a shot and can create/pass for others. He seems to be a better shotblocker than Tiago but does not have Tiago's mobility, which makes Tiago a better rotational defender and pick and roll player on both ends.

But Gasol could definitely benefit by being in a situation with less demanded of him minutes-wise.
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Old 06-18-14, 03:49 PM
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I am all for re-signing our own free agents with our current system in place. However, it all depends on what Diaw and Mills are offered on the open market.

In looking at one possible replacement that wouldn't break the bank and fit the mold is Josh McRoberts. Unassuming big man who can really pass the ball well and shoot the 3. Definitely an upgrade over Bonner. Not sure what he would be looking for but he did just turn down a 2.8mill tender so...
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Josh McRoberts will get at least as big a contract as Diaw.
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Josh McRoberts will get at least as big a contract as Diaw.
Yeah I think he will too. Just looking at him as a Bonner replacement IF we have any money left.

The Spurs could re-sign TP and restructure so big part of it is on the years after as an option for some cap room if needed.
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Another thing to consider is that after next year, TD and Manu will most likely leave the game. Those contracts will be off the books anyway. So I don't think being frugal is as big a necessity as it has been in the past.
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Another thing to consider is that after next year, TD and Manu will most likely leave the game. Those contracts will be off the books anyway. So I don't think being frugal is as big a necessity as it has been in the past.
I agree.. just backload contracts with that in mind if there is someone that is going to be looked at as an integral piece moving forward with out Manu and Tim.

I guess that's why I saw a rumor about Spurs being interested in Monroe? Hmmm....
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Another thing to consider is that after next year, TD and Manu will most likely leave the game. Those contracts will be off the books anyway. So I don't think being frugal is as big a necessity as it has been in the past.
I agree in a way-- the Spurs will be close enough to the salary cap (projected at $63 mil) at $54 mil with TD returning and Kawhi not extended, Boris and Patty unsigned, that you really have no cap room to speak of.

The luxury tax line is going to be about $77 mil. So you have a lot of room to re-sign Boris and Patty, pay TD, extend Kawhi, sign a mid-level guy, and still be under the luxury tax to finish out TD/Manu's careers.

Like this--
51 mil
plus extending Kawhi starting at 8 mil/year plus raises= 59
plus Patty and Boris at MLE (I think that's all we can pay them)= 11 mil = 70.

We thus still have the MLE plus vet minimums to throw around and stay under the tax.

If my math is right.

My major caution is everybody but Kawhi needs to be on 2-3 year deals.

Though keep in mind we will have to re-sign TP and Danny Green soon also.
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Old 06-19-14, 01:42 AM
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I believe that we don't need to sign with Gasol unless Duncan retires. He can be a very good Duncan replacment but our front-court is solid enough at the moment.(Assuming we re-sign with Diaw)

Next summer will be a different story and we will need to talk it after this summer moves.
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I agree in a way-- the Spurs will be close enough to the salary cap (projected at $63 mil) at $54 mil with TD returning and Kawhi not extended, Boris and Patty unsigned, that you really have no cap room to speak of.

The luxury tax line is going to be about $77 mil. So you have a lot of room to re-sign Boris and Patty, pay TD, extend Kawhi, sign a mid-level guy, and still be under the luxury tax to finish out TD/Manu's careers.

Like this--
51 mil
plus extending Kawhi starting at 8 mil/year plus raises= 59
plus Patty and Boris at MLE (I think that's all we can pay them)= 11 mil = 70.

We thus still have the MLE plus vet minimums to throw around and stay under the tax.

If my math is right.

My major caution is everybody but Kawhi needs to be on 2-3 year deals.

Though keep in mind we will have to re-sign TP and Danny Green soon also.
That calculation is wrong. Even Kawhi would sign an extension, he will get 3M next year. Extension will be applied after his current contract expires, not starts from this year. It will start from 2015-16.

That's why if we extend with Kawhi, it will not eat our cap space this year.
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