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Old 01-29-14, 03:42 AM
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Hypothetically speaking...

It would be nearly impossible for me to describe here what Ginobili has done for the Spurs. He is a HOF'er and then some. Arguably my favorite player in any sport, of all time.

But, here's the deal: he hasn't been right, physically, in years. And, sadly, he is not getting any younger, and while he has won several games for us this year, there's a significant risk (dare I say probability?) that he won't be consistently available down the stretch. A shame, because the rest of the team suffers.

So, my question is, could the nearly impossible happen, where we see Ginobili bowing out gracefully in a trade, for the good of the team, and immediately retiring? Would such a scenario even be possible?
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Old 01-29-14, 05:05 AM
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The good thing about following the Spurs is that you don't have to worry about one of your favourite players of all time being traded for a quick fix...... my brother on the other hand has had to watch the Celtics trade away two pillars of a championship for the chance to tank with the best tickets for the show possible. It may not work they may get an Oden or Candy and waste the trade.

Manu should not have to be the good guy and take a hit for the team and get traded to a mess like PP and Garnett did, he should be taken on a one more time retirement tour and retired with the respect he has earn.

And I don't buy into this "its just business he should be fine" business, the fans are the clients of this business and if enough have connected to Manu (who is one of the most popular players we have ever had) and get tired of the brand who trashes him then if a failed rebuild follows you lose everyone.
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Old 01-29-14, 07:55 AM
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The good thing about following the Spurs is that you don't have to worry about one of your favourite players of all time being traded for a quick fix...... my brother on the other hand has had to watch the Celtics trade away two pillars of a championship for the chance to tank with the best tickets for the show possible. It may not work they may get an Oden or Candy and waste the trade.

Manu should not have to be the good guy and take a hit for the team and get traded to a mess like PP and Garnett did, he should be taken on a one more time retirement tour and retired with the respect he has earn.

And I don't buy into this "its just business he should be fine" business, the fans are the clients of this business and if enough have connected to Manu (who is one of the most popular players we have ever had) and get tired of the brand who trashes him then if a failed rebuild follows you lose everyone.
I couldn't have said it better. Remember also that Kawhi was out last season with knee tendinitis and Splitter with back spasms.

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Old 01-29-14, 08:03 AM
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I don't see the Spurs trading Ginobili this year. I could see them trading him next season if Ginobili were planning on retiring. We did trade Bruce Bowen in his last season. But I don't think we would have traded Bruce if it weren't time for him to retire. I don't think it is time for Ginobili to retire. I am not in favor of ever trading Ginobili. I want to see him retire a Spur.

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I do think there is a sliver of a chance that it could happen.
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Old 01-29-14, 10:06 AM
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My own personal "no trade list" has Tim, Tony and KY. Tim will always be on that list, Tony has been on there for the last 3 years and KY is on there because he is the best player outside of those two. But my list doesn't count. The Spurs have their own list. Business and basketball wise, it would have made sense to have traded him in the last year of either of his last two contracts. Now, it doesn't.
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Old 01-29-14, 03:17 PM
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Personally I would cry if either Tim or Manu got traded. In the past Manu took a lot less money to stay here. They love San Antonio and all its fans. I'd rather lose with someone that loves the city and fights for the city, then win with an outsider who is just here for money and does not care about the city.

Think about the Olympics, would you still root for USA if they replaced all our athletes with better foreign ones?
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Old 01-29-14, 04:36 PM
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I do not see Manu go any where. Manu will remain here. He is a HOF and a Spurs LEGEND! No way Manu be traded. Mark my words. Never Never!

Spurs if they needed to trade now they would not trade 4 guys. TD, TP, Manu, and Kawhi. The rest Spurs could be all for trade talk. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-29-14, 05:22 PM
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If the Spurs were to trade Manu, whether it was his decision or not, I believe the Spurs would be committing sports suicide. Manuís European reputation preceded him before having played his first game in a Spurs uniform. Ever since his arrival and with every game he has played, after every outstanding pass, he has gained followers in every city he has played in. There are kids out there who have watched Manu play most of their young lives and cherish the ground he walks on and thatís not including his home country of Argentina, who have adopted the Spurs into their culture. If the Spurs were to trade him, regardless of the reason or what the Spurs get in return, what kind of message does that send to any future free agent that comes along who the Spurs want to go after. What kind of message would that send to TD, the remaining team members or even Parker who is almost within earshot of free agency himself.

I believe Manuís style of play, the way he contorts his body on drives to the hoop, has possibly made him vulnerable to injuries such as the kind heís experiencing now. With his hamstring problem and these reoccurrences with it, I think Manu has been thinking about his future with the Spurs and as an active basketball player.

Regardless, I donít care what the reason, Manu is now a Spurs institution and deserves to stay a Spur the rest of his short remaining career, have his uniform number retired and possibly be inducted into the HOF as a Spur. I truly don't believe the Spurs management would kick him to the curb because of this injury; I believe they will allow Manu to wear #20 until the end of his contract or if Manu himself hangs up his sneakers.
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Old 01-29-14, 05:34 PM
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^ outstanding post thanks alh
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Old 01-29-14, 07:21 PM
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How quickly people forget that George Gervin was traded at the end of his career , And if it was not for ICE the spurs would never have made it out of the ABA. so you ask if the unthinkable could happen to Manu yes it can. But will it, The answer is NO!
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Old 01-29-14, 08:45 PM
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How quickly people forget that George Gervin was traded at the end of his career , And if it was not for ICE the spurs would never have made it out of the ABA. so you ask if the unthinkable could happen to Manu yes it can. But will it, The answer is NO!

Excellent post. If Ice could get traded then certainly Manu could. Do the Spurs have the cojones to do it, absolutely not.

No one is untouchable. If it makes the Spurs better in the long term, then everyone is tradeable.

I'm a Spurs fan first, player fan second!! No one individual is bigger than the organization. Not even Manu the Great...
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