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MichaelWi101 10-25-13 01:54 PM

Josh Howard Finally A Spur?
 
According to Spursnation, he's on his way. San Antonio Spurs news, scores, stats & analysis – Spurs Nation » Spurs to sign Josh Howard to non-guaranteed deal

Spurd_On 10-25-13 02:33 PM

I guess the Rockets game was the acid test by Pop to see if he could get by without another legit small forward behind Kawhi and Manu. Apparently the answer came to him quickly. Let's hope that Howard's legs are now bionic enough to make it through a full season.

JuanCaca 10-25-13 02:53 PM

dang!! why him, this year!?!?!

Spurd_On 10-25-13 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuanCaca (Post 1305243)
dang!! why him, this year!?!?!

I don't understand the question. Does this mean he shouldn't get a shot? It's a non-guaranteed contract the way I read it.

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clovisnmspurfan 10-25-13 03:01 PM

Low risk, maybe he has a little left in the tank.

MRJONESIII 10-25-13 03:58 PM

Money is money, he just picked who ever offered him something. Just like Maggette, he turned us down a while back, now he's just hoping for a paycheck, a bench seat and an exit requirement plan! Better hire more doctors, cause he makes Manu look like Bruce Willis in the movie "Unbreakable"

JuanCaca 10-25-13 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurd_On (Post 1305244)
I don't understand the question. Does this mean he shouldn't get a shot? It's a non-guaranteed contract the way I read it.

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<!-- END TEMPLATE: newpost_quote -->sorry i was a little perplexed! i was meaning: why at this stage?... or why ' till this year?.. the guy has 2 major knee surgery ...offensively sounds to me like last year stephen jackson... and defensively... well dunno what to xpect...

MichaelWi101 10-25-13 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRJONESIII (Post 1305246)
Better hire more doctors, cause he makes Manu look like Bruce Willis in the movie "Unbreakable"

:laugh
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rapidEtpetit 10-25-13 04:23 PM

confused. why sign this guy over maggette? maggette seems to be in much better shape/have a much better attitude. also, didn't he get suspended from the mavs in 06 for smoking pot during the season?

Uwe Blab 10-25-13 04:56 PM

It's slim pickings at this point in the offseason. They seem to be truly searching for someone, I wouldn't be surprised at a trade during the season.

If your only other option at that spot is Manu, you're in trouble. Trade Manu for someone, the other team cuts him, he returns after 30 days. Or is that not allowed anymore? Either way, trade Manu.:smirk

Spurd_On 10-25-13 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rapidEtpetit (Post 1305250)
confused. why sign this guy over maggette? maggette seems to be in much better shape/have a much better attitude. also, didn't he get suspended from the mavs in 06 for smoking pot during the season?

I don't think he has a guaranteed contract so they are not choosing him over Maggette, they are just giving him the same opportunity. He will have to prove he is better suited than Maggette because Maggette was not good enough for Pop.

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spurduncan21 10-25-13 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwe Blab (Post 1305251)
It's slim pickings at this point in the offseason. They seem to be truly searching for someone, I wouldn't be surprised at a trade during the season.

If your only other option at that spot is Manu, you're in trouble. Trade Manu for someone, the other team cuts him, he returns after 30 days. Or is that not allowed anymore? Either way, trade Manu.:smirk

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If Manu traded and later released, he cannot sign until following season

alh1020 10-25-13 06:36 PM

From the article: “Howard is 33 and coming off his second major knee surgery in less than three years, having had his feel-good comeback in Minnesota sidetracked by a torn ACL in his right knee last December……………In his bid to make a contribution with the Spurs, Howard faces a climb that is similarly uphill.”

Wow, I’m stomped. Why are we in such a hurry to fill that 15th slot? Since we can only suit 12 players, who sits to allow him to play, if he’s still around when that happens? With the season starting in a few days, it looks like the regular season schedule will be Howard's training camp or is he still eligible to play D-league, with his NBA tenure? Pop sure likes his veterans. A Michael Finley he’s not, at least not at this stage in his career. I’m just glad it’s a non-guaranteed contract.

Spurd_On 10-25-13 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alh1020 (Post 1305257)
From the article: “Howard is 33 and coming off his second major knee surgery in less than three years, having had his feel-good comeback in Minnesota sidetracked by a torn ACL in his right knee last December……………In his bid to make a contribution with the Spurs, Howard faces a climb that is similarly uphill.”

Wow, I’m stomped. Why are we in such a hurry to fill that 15th slot? Since we can only suit 12 players, who sits to allow him to play, if he’s still around when that happens? With the season starting in a few days, it looks like the regular season schedule will be Howard's training camp or is he still eligible to play D-league, with his NBA tenure? Pop sure likes his veterans. A Michael Finley he’s not, at least not at this stage in his career. I’m just glad it’s a non-guaranteed contract.

I'm not aware of any D-League restrictions on NBA players.

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b1gdon 10-25-13 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spurd_On (Post 1305259)
I'm not aware of any D-League restrictions on NBA players.

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I don't think Howard is a D-League candidate. He's a veteran so he knows the game and there is nothing he's really going to learn in the d-league. Only thing he would get from there is a chance at getting hurt. If he was just coming off of injury and needed to get into game shape to play significant minutes as quickly as possible then some PT with the Toros would make sense, but he's got plenty of time to find his grove with SA so the bench is ok.

jmbarton 10-26-13 01:08 PM

Annnnnndddd, he's gone:

Spurs Waive Josh Howard | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS

MRJONESIII 10-26-13 01:23 PM

Thank gosh !

JuanCaca 10-26-13 01:39 PM

wtf?

the guy of the Argentina bird attack messed things givin contract to the wrong player??

or are spurs that evil, and just do that to pay back ..lolol

alh1020 10-26-13 01:51 PM

That had to be a little awkward.

RC to Josh and his agent: “Pop and I had a long sit-down and discussed how you really screwed us when you were with Dallas, and after a ‘few’ bottles of wine, we thought, Nah, we don’t want ya. Call us if you need tickets to a game.”

Spurd_On 10-26-13 03:06 PM

He is not gone. The signing and waiving was a procedural issue of some sort. He will be a Toro, not a Spur, until he is ready. My best guess is that this somehow gives the Spurs 1st option if a team tries to snag him from the D-League. In the meantime I would imagine that the Spurs would first begin checking his progress status after about the same amount of time as training camp was.

JuanCaca 10-26-13 04:01 PM

yeah, they can asign to toros their last 3 cuts from camp...

MichaelWi101 10-26-13 05:04 PM

Hard to believe that this whole thing wasn't negotiated in advance. He goes to the Toros for a few months, rehabs his knee, learns the Spurs system and shows back up in SA around Christmas.

Spurd_On 10-26-13 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelWi101 (Post 1305283)
Hard to believe that this whole thing wasn't negotiated in advance. He goes to the Toros for a few months, rehabs his knee, learns the Spurs system and shows back up in SA around Christmas.

It seems to be a very creative scheme. I'm crossing my fingers that Howard proves worthy.

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WILLTHETHRILL 10-26-13 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alh1020 (Post 1305257)
From the article: “Howard is 33 and coming off his second major knee surgery in less than three years, having had his feel-good comeback in Minnesota sidetracked by a torn ACL in his right knee last December……………In his bid to make a contribution with the Spurs, Howard faces a climb that is similarly uphill.”

Wow, I’m stomped. Why are we in such a hurry to fill that 15th slot? Since we can only suit 12 players, who sits to allow him to play, if he’s still around when that happens? With the season starting in a few days, it looks like the regular season schedule will be Howard's training camp or is he still eligible to play D-league, with his NBA tenure? Pop sure likes his veterans. A Michael Finley he’s not, at least not at this stage in his career. I’m just glad it’s a non-guaranteed contract.

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b1gdon 10-26-13 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelWi101 (Post 1305283)
Hard to believe that this whole thing wasn't negotiated in advance. He goes to the Toros for a few months, rehabs his knee, learns the Spurs system and shows back up in SA around Christmas.

Just goes to show how little I know about how this stuff works.

I hope his rehab stint goes well and he can contribute Timmy's thumb ring.

alh1020 10-27-13 11:08 AM

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