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sicaluffa 07-19-13 04:10 PM

can the spurs please get rid of bonner?!
 
he's worthless unless he's wide open for a three, they need t
o get rid of him already.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-19-13 04:11 PM

Why all the Bonner hate now? This is crazy!

sicaluffa 07-19-13 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303581)
Why all the Bonner hate now? This is crazy!

I've never liked Bonner. My friends always think I'm joking, but I've always said the spurs will never win another title with him on the team, and I'm totally serious. He had almost no value, unless he is wide open. He cannot play defense or rebound, and can't make a shot with a hand in his face. Get rid of him please!!!

Rzarector7 07-19-13 04:42 PM

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN :( I wish they had gotten rid of him when they could years ago, but no they had to sign him up again. What is funny is a specialist will take 4 MILLION from our cap this year :( DAMNIT.

katyspursfan 07-19-13 04:50 PM

They may next summer.

Though an extension isn't out of the question.

exit7 07-19-13 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sicaluffa (Post 1303582)
I've never liked Bonner. My friends always think I'm joking, but I've always said the spurs will never win another title with him on the team, and I'm totally serious. He had almost no value, unless he is wide open. He cannot play defense or rebound, and can't make a shot with a hand in his face. Get rid of him please!!!

They came pretty dang close to winning one with him. And it wasn't bonners fault they lost, it was pops mismanagement of the lineup. So your argument doesn't hold much water.

exit7 07-19-13 05:24 PM

Bonner is a big body, and he definitely played good defense during the memphis series. He had a good playoffs, and if you are going to hate on him for missing contested shots, where was Danny Green in the last two games of the Finals?? I'll tell you, he was being contested and couldn't hit a shot.

silvernblackfan 07-19-13 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303587)
Bonner is a big body, and he definitely played good defense during the memphis series. He had a good playoffs, and if you are going to hate on him for missing contested shots, where was Danny Green in the last two games of the Finals?? I'll tell you, he was being contested and couldn't hit a shot.

AMEN

silvernblackfan 07-19-13 05:37 PM

Bonner possesses the basic skills that some don't apply like boxing out and rebounding that we couldn't get done in the last games of the finals, he plays decent D, sometimes overmatched to where not many people can defend so that's not his fault he does his best

thesuspence281 07-19-13 06:15 PM

Its not that I dont like bonner per se but he is taking up a roster spot so if we can get someone else who can fill a need then I would say that he is expendable.

Rzarector7 07-19-13 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303587)
Bonner is a big body, and he definitely played good defense during the memphis series. He had a good playoffs, and if you are going to hate on him for missing contested shots, where was Danny Green in the last two games of the Finals?? I'll tell you, he was being contested and couldn't hit a shot.

Where was Bonner though in the whole finals? If you can't play in the finals where it really counts and all chips on the line how good are you really?

doom32x4 07-19-13 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303581)
Why all the Bonner hate now? This is crazy!

Flew right over their heads....:laugh

WILLTHETHRILL 07-19-13 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303586)
They came pretty dang close to winning one with him. And it wasn't bonners fault they lost, it was pops mismanagement of the lineup. So your argument doesn't hold much water.

How did they almost win it with him? He hardly played in the Finals?

grizzly_bexar 07-19-13 11:50 PM

How does it help to "get rid of" a guy like that? You have to have a plan to replace him for the suggestion even to make sense.

exit7 07-19-13 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303595)
How did they almost win it with him? He hardly played in the Finals?

Regardless of how much he played, the quote was the spurs would never win another championship with bonner on the team. My point was, they came very close with him on the team, and he certainly wasn't the reason they lost. You can look at the roster if you'd like will, but I think you will find that he was indeed on the roster during the finals.

thesuspence281 07-19-13 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by grizzly_bexar (Post 1303599)
How does it help to "get rid of" a guy like that? You have to have a plan to replace him for the suggestion even to make sense.

Exactly. It was almost the same situation with splitter. If we dont want him then we need to have a plan that plugs other weaknesses or provides a similar skill set to replace what he brings.

exit7 07-19-13 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rzarector7 (Post 1303592)
Where was Bonner though in the whole finals? If you can't play in the finals where it really counts and all chips on the line how good are you really?

We don't know if he could or couldn't, pop didn't play him in the finals. He averaged less than 7 minutes per game.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-20-13 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303600)
Regardless of how much he played, the quote was the spurs would never win another championship with bonner on the team. My point was, they came very close with him on the team, and he certainly wasn't the reason they lost. You can look at the roster if you'd like will, but I think you will find that he was indeed on the roster during the finals.

Well McGrady was on the roster too and I scored as many points in the playoffs as he did. He was an active player too. If you did your research or had a good memory the Spurs already won a title with Bonner technically. Bonner has a ring from 07' but what was his role on that playoff run? Just being on the roster doesn't mean that much to me or most of the others on here. That's like saying the reason the Heat won back to back titles was because Juwan Howard was on their roster. It's bull.

clovisnmspurfan 07-20-13 07:26 PM

Bonner never was nor will he ever be a big wheel but he has been the oil to help the wheels turn.

exit7 07-20-13 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303609)
Well McGrady was on the roster too and I scored as many points in the playoffs as he did. He was an active player too. If you did your research or had a good memory the Spurs already won a title with Bonner technically. Bonner has a ring from 07' but what was his role on that playoff run? Just being on the roster doesn't mean that much to me or most of the others on here. That's like saying the reason the Heat won back to back titles was because Juwan Howard was on their roster. It's bull.

Okay will, the comment was made that the spurs will never win ANOTHER championship with bonner on the team, I'm aware he has a ring. Apparently I have to spell this out for you. My point was, they came very close to winning again this year with bonner ON THE ROSTER. That was my point, not that he was the reason we got there or the highest scoring player on the team.

Again, just so you are clear and you don't have to go to great lengths to prove me wrong, my point was they came very close in 2013 to winning a championship with bonner on the roster. I never said anything about him not having a ring or averaging a bunch of points per game, you must have pulled those retorts out of your ass my friend.

Kager 07-21-13 06:07 AM

So we have another person throwing Matty out without giving an alternative, he provided defence and rebounding and three point shooting (most three point shooters shoot open and his average for the shots he took was good). All that in a 6"10' body that helped get us through the series with big front lines, like memphis and LA.

Noone who burns with hate for the red rocket can offer up a player who can fill the gap for the same money...... And until you can just let it go people! Bonner earns his pay, the Spurs haven't got rid of him because they know what they are getting each year for the money and they are happy with that.

Rzarector7 07-21-13 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303602)
We don't know if he could or couldn't, pop didn't play him in the finals. He averaged less than 7 minutes per game.

I would say based on his showing against GS or mins there that against a faster team that is a GOOD move from Pop to hardly play him in that series. :applause

clovisnmspurfan 07-21-13 07:58 PM

Bonner is a ROLE PLAYER and as a role player he does not match up to every team. Besides when has a role player ever been to play big minutes in the playoffs? Most teams shorten rotations in playoffs, why should the Spurs be any different. Pop usually knows what he is doing and is considered one of the better coaches in the NBA. In Pop we trust.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-21-13 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303633)
Okay will, the comment was made that the spurs will never win ANOTHER championship with bonner on the team, I'm aware he has a ring. Apparently I have to spell this out for you. My point was, they came very close to winning again this year with bonner ON THE ROSTER. That was my point, not that he was the reason we got there or the highest scoring player on the team.

Again, just so you are clear and you don't have to go to great lengths to prove me wrong, my point was they came very close in 2013 to winning a championship with bonner on the roster. I never said anything about him not having a ring or averaging a bunch of points per game, you must have pulled those retorts out of your ass my friend.

No great lengths needed. I asked a plain question and you didn't answer it. Grow a spine and respond to the whole post and not to what YOU want to reply on.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-22-13 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by clovisnmspurfan (Post 1303647)
Bonner is a ROLE PLAYER and as a role player he does not match up to every team. Besides when has a role player ever been to play big minutes in the playoffs? Most teams shorten rotations in playoffs, why should the Spurs be any different. Pop usually knows what he is doing and is considered one of the better coaches in the NBA. In Pop we trust.

Robert Horry

e_93gsx 07-22-13 02:35 AM

Another "I hate Bonner thread" :rolleyes :zzz

Dude is a role player. Nothing more. He is not the reason the Spurs win or lose a championship.

exit7 07-22-13 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303651)
No great lengths needed. I asked a plain question and you didn't answer it. Grow a spine and respond to the whole post and not to what YOU want to reply on.

I don't want to insult the illiterate, but if you understood how to read you would see that I answered your question. I'm not going to argue with a 5 year old so I bow to your superior knowledge. Smh...

ALSPURS 07-22-13 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sicaluffa (Post 1303582)
I've never liked Bonner. My friends always think I'm joking, but I've always said the spurs will never win another title with him on the team, and I'm totally serious. He had almost no value, unless he is wide open. He cannot play defense or rebound, and can't make a shot with a hand in his face. Get rid of him please!!!

This post ever happens if the Spurs win Game 6?

And Bonner had nothing to do on those last couple plays so your argument has no weight to it....

Bonner is a good shooter....spaces the floor and can defend and help out....he is not a star nor a great player in the league....but with some of the contracts that get handed out he is getting paid fine....

ALSPURS 07-22-13 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rzarector7 (Post 1303592)
Where was Bonner though in the whole finals? If you can't play in the finals where it really counts and all chips on the line how good are you really?

And they go out and give Spliiter and huge contract right after he played very little in the finals....

It is what it is...the way the Spurs rest players during the year you need guys that can fill in and know there roll on a night to night basis ....

You guys are just looking to point fingers after a bitter Finals loss....

We can say the same things about lots of players disappearing at certain times in the finals...

WILLTHETHRILL 07-22-13 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303664)
I don't want to insult the illiterate, but if you understood how to read you would see that I answered your question. I'm not going to argue with a 5 year old so I bow to your superior knowledge. Smh...

You can't insult me because you are not a real man who answers a whole complete post. That's the problem with your stupid replies on a player who barely played. You take things out of context on my end and you assume I put in insults towards you when I didn't. Go back to listening to your Boy George albums because it's very obvious what you are. A 5 year old boy is more a man than you are. A lot more. You started the insults buddy.
Grow a set already and STFU!

tabspur 07-22-13 11:49 AM

This year is the one he will be most valuable to the Spurs..... He has a $4 million dollar expiring contract! Trade commodity or cap space, he will be reviewing new sandwich shops soon.

exit7 07-22-13 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303595)
How did they almost win it with him? He hardly played in the Finals?

This was your question, and I answered it. They almost won in 2013 when Matt bonner was on the team, I didn't say he played a huge role. I simply stated that he was on the team. Get over yourself dude, you don't have to be right all the time.

tabspur 07-22-13 12:51 PM

Bonner is what he is. He has one skill. He can shoot it, very well for a big. But we all know his limitations, and there are many of him. That being said, he's not a bad guy to have on a roster. Good team mate, can stretch the floor in some regular season games, good guy in the locker room. I think the question that many have brought up on here, is who would you replace him with at his value? I think that's the $4 million dollar question. I'm sure the Spurs are looking at all of those options again. Certainly have him, Diaw, and Mills come off the salary cap this year MAY give us some options. Depending on how it all works out with our summer signings. Or, again, having expiring contracts to trade is a nice asset. I don't think Bonner will ever be a contributor, on the floor, for a championship. But not a bad 11rh or 12th guy to have.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-22-13 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303676)
This was your question, and I answered it. They almost won in 2013 when Matt bonner was on the team, I didn't say he played a huge role. I simply stated that he was on the team. Get over yourself dude, you don't have to be right all the time.

And Tracy McGrady was on the team and almost won it with him on the roster. Nobody on here said they would never win a championship with Bonner on the roster. Nobody ever said that. Not one person. They said and I said they wouldn't win a championship with Bonner as a starter or as regular role player for them. Just get it right. I don't have to be right and have been wrong and I own up to it when I am. Be factual. Nobody said the Spurs couldn't win a title with Bonner on the team.

exit7 07-23-13 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicaluffa (Post 1303582)
I've never liked Bonner. My friends always think I'm joking, but I've always said the spurs will never win another title with him on the team, and I'm totally serious. He had almost no value, unless he is wide open. He cannot play defense or rebound, and can't make a shot with a hand in his face. Get rid of him please!!!

Will, this is what I was responding to. "The spurs will never win another title with him on the team". So I'm sorry but you're wrong.

clovisnmspurfan 07-23-13 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303654)
Robert Horry

Rober Horry was a big time player before he became a role player for the Spurs

WILLTHETHRILL 07-23-13 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clovisnmspurfan (Post 1303725)
Rober Horry was a big time player before he became a role player for the Spurs

But never an all star. In Houston he was huge for them and LA too but on the bench. So take out the Houston years...he was mainly a role player for his career.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-23-13 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303715)
Will, this is what I was responding to. "The spurs will never win another title with him on the team". So I'm sorry but you're wrong.

You were right and I missed that quote from that poster but I missed all of his..............

15 posts of his 4 year span on here to be exact. And most of those low post peeps know very little about NBA basketball it seems but this guy had it right though except for not being able to win a title with Bonner. I never believed that theory and I hate Bonner. As far as regular posters on here.........I don't recall another person saying anything close to that. As hard as I am on Bonner, In my mind and others that he is best for the Spurs when he sits and doesn't play at all on the big stage. When he had bad playoff games people blamed the Big 3 for it. In this playoffs the Big 3 were mostly on point and not terrible by anyone's view. So why did he average just seven minutes a game in the playoffs? So except for the Laker series(they were so beat up) he hardly did squat and or didn't play. People blame matchups when that happens most of the time. I'm sorry but why all the excuses for this guy? The Big 3. Matchups. It's BS. Yeah Danny Green was M.I.A the last two games and I think even you pointed it out. I'm sorry but without Green the Spurs don't win 3 games in the Finals without him. So I'm wrong and thanks for pointing that out but Bonner will never contribute a ring to any NBA team if he plays a rotation role. Again that's like all the people saying Tracy McGrady will never be an NBA champion. He was seconds away from it technically but really it would not have held much weight if they had won it with him. Juwan Howard back to back NBA champion. True. Either by not playing or being in a suit for the Heat the last two years. That's a fact! In the basketball world in general Juwan Howard and his "Fab 5" are considered losers for not winning multiple NCAA titles and by not being a main cog to a single NBA title. My point is that Bonner being on the roster means nothing even if the Spurs would have won. So I was wrong when I said nobody said that but I feel on the overall subject of Bonner....I was right. And many people agree with me on it. Cheers to you!:beer

exit7 07-23-13 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303760)
You were right and I missed that quote from that poster but I missed all of his..............

15 posts of his 4 year span on here to be exact. And most of those low post peeps know very little about NBA basketball it seems but this guy had it right though except for not being able to win a title with Bonner. I never believed that theory and I hate Bonner. As far as regular posters on here.........I don't recall another person saying anything close to that. As hard as I am on Bonner, In my mind and others that he is best for the Spurs when he sits and doesn't play at all on the big stage. When he had bad playoff games people blamed the Big 3 for it. In this playoffs the Big 3 were mostly on point and not terrible by anyone's view. So why did he average just seven minutes a game in the playoffs? So except for the Laker series(they were so beat up) he hardly did squat and or didn't play. People blame matchups when that happens most of the time. I'm sorry but why all the excuses for this guy? The Big 3. Matchups. It's BS. Yeah Danny Green was M.I.A the last two games and I think even you pointed it out. I'm sorry but without Green the Spurs don't win 3 games in the Finals without him. So I'm wrong and thanks for pointing that out but Bonner will never contribute a ring to any NBA team if he plays a rotation role. Again that's like all the people saying Tracy McGrady will never be an NBA champion. He was seconds away from it technically but really it would not have held much weight if they had won it with him. Juwan Howard back to back NBA champion. True. Either by not playing or being in a suit for the Heat the last two years. That's a fact! In the basketball world in general Juwan Howard and his "Fab 5" are considered losers for not winning multiple NCAA titles and by not being a main cog to a single NBA title. My point is that Bonner being on the roster means nothing even if the Spurs would have won. So I was wrong when I said nobody said that but I feel on the overall subject of Bonner....I was right. And many people agree with me on it. Cheers to you!:beer


I agree with most of what you just said. My initial reply on this thread was that its ridiculous to say that just having Bonner on the roster disqualifies us from winning a championship, when we were so close this year. I'm not even that big of a supporter of Bonner, he plays a role and that role usually finds him in games during the regular season. And if he can spell Tim Duncan for a few games during the year, we get the Timmy that we saw in Games 6 & 7 of the NBA Finals.

WILLTHETHRILL 07-23-13 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303763)
I agree with most of what you just said. My initial reply on this thread was that its ridiculous to say that just having Bonner on the roster disqualifies us from winning a championship, when we were so close this year. I'm not even that big of a supporter of Bonner, he plays a role and that role usually finds him in games during the regular season. And if he can spell Tim Duncan for a few games during the year, we get the Timmy that we saw in Games 6 & 7 of the NBA Finals.

I totally agree with you man. we good?

Mombear 07-23-13 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303654)
Robert Whorry

Fixed... :hat

exit7 07-23-13 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303764)
I totally agree with you man. we good?


For sure dude, Go spurs Go!!!

Kager 07-23-13 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1303766)
For sure dude, Go spurs Go!!!

What a dissapointing end to a thread war...... come on no one on here typed it but we were all chanting fight fight fight at our keyboards....:wink

WILLTHETHRILL 07-23-13 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kager (Post 1303767)
What a dissapointing end to a thread war...... come on no one on here typed it but we were all chanting fight fight fight at our keyboards....:wink

TRADE BONNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol

Kager 07-23-13 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL (Post 1303768)
TRADE BONNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol

Thats the Will we know and....... know :D

Mombear 07-23-13 10:57 PM

:up :lol


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