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spurduncan21 07-01-13 03:23 PM

AK-47
 
Apparently Marc Stein is reporting we're after Andei Kirlenko
Per his twitter; "Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine




One of the teams that troubles Minnesota in Wolves' bid to retain Andrei Kirilenko: San Antonio. I'm told Spurs have AK-47 in their sights"

He declined a $10M option, so have to think he'd have accept half of that to play here if possible

Orient Express 07-01-13 03:25 PM

holy crap, it would be AMAZING to have AK-47 as a Spur!!! (at the right price, of course)

thesuspence281 07-01-13 03:37 PM

Maybe 6 years ago...

montgod 07-01-13 03:37 PM

Yeah, it's going to be interesting how these type of signings workout for the rest of the team (i.e. Splitter, Manu, Bonner and Neal). If a player like him or Ellis is signed, I could easily see Spurs trade/amnesty Bonner, renounce Neal... etc. to make more space.

spurduncan21 07-01-13 03:40 PM

I think Neal is done as a spur so him leaving will not break any hearts, mine at least. Won't miss his terrible defensive rotations. Amnestying Bonner or trading him would be great. When is the last day to amnesty players?

MichaelWi101 07-01-13 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thesuspence281 (Post 1301679)
Maybe 6 years ago...

That's the Spurs way, free agents who are at the end of their careers, can't play like they used to and want to try and get a ring.

Sometimes it work out sometimes it doesn't

thesuspence281 07-01-13 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelWi101 (Post 1301686)
That's the Spurs way, free agents who are at the end of their careers, can't play like they used to and want to try and get a ring.

Sometimes it work out sometimes it doesn't

I wouldn't mind him as long as he comes cheap enough to where we can still make some other moves. I dont know that us just staying pat and adding kirilenko all of a sudden gets us over the hump.

Ive always liked him as a player and enjoyed his game but he seems to have dropped off considerably since his better days in Utah.

montgod 07-01-13 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thesuspence281 (Post 1301689)
I wouldn't mind him as long as he comes cheap enough to where we can still make some other moves. I dont know that us just staying pat and adding kirilenko all of a sudden gets us over the hump.

Ive always liked him as a player and enjoyed his game but he seems to have dropped off considerably since his better days in Utah.

Yeah I agree. Not sure how much he would be looking for especially since he just turned down 10 mill... :yikes. For another two years or so... three max at a reasonable rate, he would be a very nice bench/small ball option to come in at SF/PF.

thesuspence281 07-01-13 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by montgod (Post 1301690)
Yeah I agree. Not sure how much he would be looking for especially since he just turned down 10 mill... :yikes. For another two years or so... three max at a reasonable rate, he would be a very nice bench/small ball option to come in at SF/PF.

He could help if teams try to play small ball if he still has the quickness. I think hes always been a pretty decent shot blocker with his lanky arms.

drcantgetright 07-01-13 05:12 PM

He cant spread the floor...and I don't think he would be what we want at the end of a game: someone the defender can double off of.

mckennaspur1 07-01-13 05:16 PM

Smart player who prospered by taking a year off to play back at home. Seems to have gotten some of his fire back. He's just the kind of player Pop uses better than anyone.

MichaelWi101 07-01-13 06:18 PM

He also spends a lot of time being injured. He's only managed to play more than 70 games once since 2004 and he missed 18 games last year.

Enough already with brittle, end of career guys, the Spurs have plenty enough of those.

choppsboy 07-01-13 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spurduncan21 (Post 1301681)
I think Neal is done as a spur so him leaving will not break any hearts, mine at least. Won't miss his terrible defensive rotations. Amnestying Bonner or trading him would be great. When is the last day to amnesty players?

You don't extend qualifying offers to players you aren't interested in keeping.

NBA free agency: Spurs extend qualifying offers to Tiago Splitter, Gary Neal - SBNation.com

alh1020 07-01-13 06:31 PM

Interesting option. Kirlenko is a versatile 6'9" who can play the SF/PF positions, can rebound pretty good for his stick frame and this is what Pop likes, can play defense. But the difference in his weight vs those who he guards at that height gives me pause. Pop seems to favor the older vets on their last legs as they mesh pretty good to his coaching. If he'll take a large salary cut from his $10 mil last year, again, interesting option.

alh1020 07-01-13 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by choppsboy (Post 1301718)
You don't extend qualifying offers to players you aren't interested in keeping.

Have to agree. Neal's 3-point shooting and instant offense is tough to let walk away, particularly if Neal likes the Spurs organization and what they stand for and will accept the 'cheap' salary increase. His defense leaves a lot to be desired but if he's looking for a big payday, he'll have to find it outside of the SA city limits.

MichaelWi101 07-01-13 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choppsboy (Post 1301718)
You don't extend qualifying offers to players you aren't interested in keeping.

Agreed, and for the most part Neal's been quietly consistent for the Spurs, hope we can keep him around.

katyspursfan 07-01-13 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by choppsboy (Post 1301718)
You don't extend qualifying offers to players you aren't interested in keeping.

NBA free agency: Spurs extend qualifying offers to Tiago Splitter, Gary Neal - SBNation.com

Not really.

You don't extend a qualifying offer to a player you don't want to lose for a reasonable price.

JuanCaca 07-01-13 09:40 PM

keeping the same team and adding AK47 in place of capt jack... is enough????

drcantgetright 07-01-13 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JuanCaca (Post 1301767)
keeping the same team and adding AK47 in place of capt jack... is enough????


No it is not. One way or another, we need a legit back up to TP

rooster 07-01-13 09:47 PM

AK47 , He is like 75 years old isn't he?

thesuspence281 07-01-13 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rooster (Post 1301770)
AK47 , He is like 75 years old isn't he?

32 I believe

choppsboy 07-01-13 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alh1020 (Post 1301721)
Have to agree. Neal's 3-point shooting and instant offense is tough to let walk away, particularly if Neal likes the Spurs organization and what they stand for and will accept the 'cheap' salary increase. His defense leaves a lot to be desired but if he's looking for a big payday, he'll have to find it outside of the SA city limits.

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Originally Posted by MichaelWi101 (Post 1301764)
Agreed, and for the most part Neal's been quietly consistent for the Spurs, hope we can keep him around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katyspursfan (Post 1301766)
Not really.

You don't extend a qualifying offer to a player you don't want to lose for a reasonable price.

I think Neal suffered from plantar fasciitis all season which is why he regresses from 2012. I would like to see us re sign him. It is hard to find cold blooded shooters like Neil.

Remember when Timmy had that?

doom32x4 07-01-13 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by choppsboy (Post 1301778)
I think Neal suffered from plantar fasciitis all season which is why he regresses from 2012. I would like to see us re sign him. It is hard to find cold blooded shooters like Neil.

Remember when Timmy had that?

Great point, 21 averaged like 14ppg game that year or something, everybody though he was done.

tuncaboylu 07-02-13 04:48 AM

He's just 32 right now.

He's an all-around player and can fit Spurs system very wll. The only disadvantage is his terrible 3 points.

He opted out from 10M contract. There may be two reasons:
- He's looking a good last contract in long terms:(3 years 21M)
- He's looking to play in a winning team. Then he may accept 3 years 14M contract or like that.

spurduncan21 07-03-13 03:35 PM

Any chance we could do a sign and trade involving Neal and bonner to snag him?

thesuspence281 07-03-13 03:50 PM

Im no trade/cap space master but wouldnt bonner and neal only be worth about $4-5m? So AK would have to sign a contract for only that much right? Even after just turning down $10m from Minnesota..?

spurduncan21 07-03-13 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesuspence281 (Post 1302132)
Im no trade/cap space master but wouldnt bonner and neal only be worth about $4-5m? So AK would have to sign a contract for only that much right? Even after just turning down $10m from Minnesota..?

I would think the general consensus is that he'd accept less to play here and I find it hard to believe Neal only signs for $1-2M. Remember he's a free agent so in that sense, Neal can be signed to make up whatever the difference between what AK-47 signs on for and Bonners expiring contract

doom32x4 07-03-13 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spurduncan21 (Post 1302140)
I would think the general consensus is that he'd accept less to play here and I find it hard to believe Neal only signs for $1-2M. Remember he's a free agent so in that sense, Neal can be signed to make up whatever the difference between what AK-47 signs on for and Bonners expiring contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesuspence281 (Post 1302132)
Im no trade/cap space master but wouldnt bonner and neal only be worth about $4-5m? So AK would have to sign a contract for only that much right? Even after just turning down $10m from Minnesota..?

Jeff McDonald says AK wants years. He posited a 3-4 year deal starting at MLE and backloading to around 7-8mil


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