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Jose_TheGenius 04-26-13 12:52 PM

Westbrook out for Thunder, meniscus tear
 
<s>@</s>WojYahooNBA <small class="time"> 1m </small> One source close to OKC's Russell Westbrook on whether he could return from meniscus tear in this postseason: "Maybe."

spurscrazed 04-26-13 12:54 PM

WOW that should make OKC so much easier to pick apart...

Please Baby Jesus make Tony Parker and Manu and TD and all of our Spurs stay healthy for a very long time.

I never wish injuries to anyone but injuries suck even if they are part of the game. Very Important Blessing so much needed to stay on the top...

Go Spurs Go

esparzar1 04-26-13 12:56 PM

Holy $hit!!!! :yikes.....didn't hear about this. Depending on how bad the tear is (incomplete, partial, complete, etc.) He might be done, but if the ACL is intact and he only has a partial menicus tear (my guess would be medial menicus) then he probably will still play. I'm really shocked to hear this news, usually the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) is involved whenever menicus is mentioned......strange

esparzar1 04-26-13 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spurscrazed (Post 1295582)
WOW that should make OKC so much easier to pick apart...

Please Baby Jesus make Tony Parker and Manu and TD and all of our Spurs stay healthy for a very long time.

I never wish injuries to anyone but injuries suck even if they are part of the game. Very Important Blessing so much needed to stay on the top...

Go Spurs Go


I do!!!! lol, yeah I'm heartless but I could care less.....come'on Lebron!!!! Tear something already :smirk

esparzar1 04-26-13 12:59 PM

just seen on ESPN, westbrook is out!!!!! Going to have surgery

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stuffedmushroomz 04-26-13 01:07 PM

OMG!!! That is so true esparzar1, unless they want to keep it on the DL. I completely tore my ACL last year and a small meniscus tear, too. ACL fixed but the Dr. Didn't scrape off the meniscus. So needless to say, It feels awkward when I bend my knee, pivot to push off it. It crackles in there. Man that sucks for him.

esparzar1 04-26-13 01:21 PM

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Russell Westbrook will have surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee and be out indefinitely.

The Thunder announced the injury Friday and said Westbrook would have surgery "in the coming days." The team did not give a timeline for his return.



Westbrook


Westbrook was hurt in Game 2 of the Thunder's playoff series against Houston on Wednesday night. Rookie Patrick Beverley lunged into him trying for a steal in the second quarter and his hip collided with Westbrook's knee.

Westbrook, who is in his fifth season in the NBA, has never previously missed a game. He had the league's longest active streak of consecutive games played, with 394 straight regular-season games. The All-Star has played in all 45 of Oklahoma City's playoff games.

Game 3 of the playoff series is Saturday night in Houston.

Westbrook averaged 24 points and seven assists in the first two games, both won by Oklahoma City. Westbrook remained in the game Wednesday night, but was clearly hobbling after the injury. He sat out the Thunder's practice on Thursday, and coach Scott Brooks claimed he would be "fine tomorrow."

"Our players' health is our first and foremost concern. The Thunder's medical team and several specialists we consulted with determined that Russell undergo a procedure to address the issue," Thunder general manager Sam Presti said in a statement.

"We have thoroughly discussed this with Russell. Despite being the competitor and teammate that he is, he respects and understands the decision and is committed to come back even stronger. Certainly Russell is a leader and core player for this team, but we are in the midst of the playoffs and I know other players are determined to step up and contribute.

"We have a resilient group of players who have always taken pride in playing as a team and that approach will continue."

Russell Westbrook of Oklahoma City Thunder to have knee surgery - ESPN

esparzar1 04-26-13 01:25 PM

on a side note, if the docs just do a "little scrapping" in the knee he could be back fairly soon (maybe 2 weeks) so, don't count your blessing just yet.....still to early to know exactly whats going on.

Best case scenario for the Thunder: he will be back in two weeks.

Worst case: it's worse than they anticipated when they get in there (orthopedic docs) and could be out the entire playoffs....more to come!

Rzarector7 04-26-13 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by esparzar1 (Post 1295589)
on a side note, if the docs just do a "little scrapping" in the knee he could be back fairly soon (maybe 2 weeks) so, don't count your blessing just yet.....still to early to know exactly whats going on.

Best case scenario for the Thunder: he will be back in two weeks.

Worst case: it's worse than they anticipated when they get in there (orthopedic docs) and could be out the entire playoffs....more to come!

Yes do not count your blessings yet indeed, you have to win the games ahead of you right now and do not even bother going ahead to WCF etc. in your thoughts Spurs fans.

esparzar1 04-26-13 01:45 PM

Thunder guard Russell Westbrook to have knee surgery, return this season uncertain
11 minutes ago
....Oklahoma City point guard Russell Westbrook has suffered a slight cartilage tear in his right knee and a surgical procedure in the next 48 hours will determine the possibility of his return before the end of the playoffs.

Westbrook suffered the tear of his lateral meniscus in the second quarter of Game 2 of the Thunder's first-round playoff series with the Houston Rockets after Rockets guard Patrick Beverley lunged at Westbrook to make a steal as the Thunder guard signaled for a timeout.

Westbrook is "irate," with Beverley, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

The meniscus tear is considered to be minimal – perhaps 2 percent of the meniscus, one source said – and Westbrook's recovery could be weeks instead of months, if the doctor decides to simply "clean up" the meniscus. A full repair of the meniscus would likely mean a three-month recovery for Westbrook.

The Thunder and Westbrook don't want to risk anything with the long-term stability of his knee, sources said, and aren't pushing for the short-term solution over the longer-term procedure.

Westbrook, 24, is an All-Star and one of the league's top point guards. His absence is a severe blow to the Thunder's chances of repeating as Western Conference champions.

The Thunder hold a 2-0 series lead over the Rockets, with Games 3 and 4 moving to Houston on Saturday and Monday.

Westbrook has never missed a game in his five-season NBA career, playing in a possible 439 of 439 regular-season and playoff games. He averaged 23.2 points and 7.4 assists during the regular season and is averaging 24 points and seven assists in the two games against the Rockets.

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It's looking more and more like just a few weeks.

mckennaspur1 04-26-13 01:54 PM

Given Westbrook's general health, a standard 'scope procedure (if that's all that's needed) could have him back by the WC Finals.

This is a shame for OKC. Personally, I find Westbrook to be an impressively skilled idiot who can do as much harm as good on the court (e.g., when he forgets that he's sharing space with Kevin Durant). But he's a key for the Thunder and Round 2 will be a serious challenge without him.

Uwe Blab 04-26-13 02:18 PM

Houston is not a pushover and they may be able to push the series to 7 games now. Also, don't forget that Presti is from the Spurs bloodline, he may opt to look at the long term than the quickie solution to get him back on the court.

b1gdon 04-26-13 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwe Blab (Post 1295601)
Houston is not a pushover and they may be able to push the series to 7 games now. Also, don't forget that Presti is from the Spurs bloodline, he may opt to look at the long term than the quickie solution to get him back on the court.

The Clippers/Grizzlies aren't pushovers either and I doubt he'll be back in time for the 2nd round.

spurduncan21 04-26-13 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by b1gdon (Post 1295609)
The Clippers/Grizzlies aren't pushovers either and I doubt he'll be back in time for the 2nd round.

Very true. Put in a fork in the thunder, Clips/Grizz definately winning without WB in lineup

b1gdon 04-26-13 04:38 PM

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Rzarector7 04-26-13 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by b1gdon (Post 1295609)
The Clippers/Grizzlies aren't pushovers either and I doubt he'll be back in time for the 2nd round.

Well if that is the case then they are not beating either team without Russel Out there. I think LAC can beat them without WB, probably in 6 games.

Jose_TheGenius 04-26-13 05:44 PM

you have to take Westbrook's game into consideration. the guy relies heavily on speed and explosiveness. there's not much IQ to his game, mostly all skill.

even if he's out 2 weeks, his explosiveness will be missing. Houston may wear out OKC now and if Westbrook comes back for round 2, he'll have CP3 or Conley waiting for him.

spurduncan21 04-26-13 06:08 PM

Either way, OKC is done. Without his explosiveness he's not nearly the same
Player. Presto will be cautious and purposely not play him for fear of injuring it worse and looking at how d rose handled his recovery shows that its best to be cautious in times like these. Remember pop didnt play Timmy in the playoffs when injuring his knee at the end of the season years ago

tabspur 04-26-13 06:09 PM

Couple of things here. First, its a lateral meniscus tear, which is much worse than a medial tear. I would also assume that if he is having surgery, its some sort of bucket handle, posterior horn, or complete radial tear. If he just needed some shaving, they would most likely wait until after the season to go in and do it. If it's a tear within the vascular area of the menisci, they may try and repair it with sutures or an implant. That would be better long term for Westbrook, but would make his recovery longer as they would have to immobilize it for awhile post op before he would even begin to rehab. Bottom line, its going to be very tough for him to return to the playoffs this year, unless they play to the end of May or June. Even then, he may not be ready depending on what they find when they are in surgery, and what they end up doing. Tough break. Things are lining up for the Spurs. But we need to stay focused, gain some momentum and, of course, stay healthy.

joyner 04-26-13 06:37 PM

Just a reminder: this is the same injury that Artest recovered from in 12 days earlier this season. Westbrook could be back in time for the start of the next round.

I wouldn't call the injury a blessing to Spurs fans, either. If we can't beat OKC with Westbrook, I don't want to beat them without him.

exit7 04-26-13 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by joyner (Post 1295620)
Just a reminder: this is the same injury that Artest recovered from in 12 days earlier this season. Westbrook could be back in time for the start of the next round.

I wouldn't call the injury a blessing to Spurs fans, either. If we can't beat OKC with Westbrook, I don't want to beat them without him.

I don't understand that statement. Why wouldn't you want them to beat the Thunder without Westbrook? You would prefer they just lay down and lose because he is hurt?

esparzar1 04-26-13 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tabspur (Post 1295618)
Couple of things here. First, its a lateral meniscus tear, which is much worse than a medial tear. I would also assume that if he is having surgery, its some sort of bucket handle, posterior horn, or complete radial tear. If he just needed some shaving, they would most likely wait until after the season to go in and do it. If it's a tear within the vascular area of the menisci, they may try and repair it with sutures or an implant. That would be better long term for Westbrook, but would make his recovery longer as they would have to immobilize it for awhile post op before he would even begin to rehab. Bottom line, its going to be very tough for him to return to the playoffs this year, unless they play to the end of May or June. Even then, he may not be ready depending on what they find when they are in surgery, and what they end up doing. Tough break. Things are lining up for the Spurs. But we need to stay focused, gain some momentum and, of course, stay healthy.

You gotta be in the medical field...lol. From what I'm reading, it's a very small tear in lateral meniscus which is not very common. I'm still somewhat shocked that there was no ligament damage included (lcl?) anyways, didn't sound like a bucket or post horn tear. Really, we won't know much until the surgery is complete. They very well could easily just shave it a bit or there could be much more going on in the knee. But, I'm not an orthopedic surgeon...lol anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens!

tabspur 04-26-13 07:37 PM

Well...... Sounds like a small tear? First, there is no way anyone knows that. Other than the Thunder medical staff and management. And there is no way, and I mean no way, they are releasing any specific information. Lets just see how the surgery goes. If he has an immobilized on post op, they probably either repaired it, or did done extensive work on it.

tabspur 04-26-13 07:50 PM

One more thought. Westbrooks game is predicated on speed, sharp cuts, slashing, etc. Back to full strength will be a little tougher than, say an Artest. If he's tentative at all, next 2 rounds could be Paul and Parker....

JuanCaca 04-26-13 09:03 PM

i vet CLIPPERS gonna beat OKC if no westbrook... and clippers is not that easy to spurs... :-S

Spurd_On 04-26-13 09:30 PM

Its huge news no doubt but not on my immediate concerns list as the Spurs are only 2 games into the playoffs and this would be only a potential 3rd round matchup. I wasn't thoroughly convinced that if the Spurs make it to the 3rd round, that they would face OKC anyway with the level of talent of all 8 western teams.

thesuspence281 04-27-13 03:27 PM

Idk if anyone else has said this so far but they have announced he's out for the playoffs. The seas are parting for our return to the finals.

joyner 04-27-13 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by exit7 (Post 1295621)
I don't understand that statement. Why wouldn't you want them to beat the Thunder without Westbrook? You would prefer they just lay down and lose because he is hurt?

Of course not. Just because I don't want to beat them without Westbrook doesn't mean I want us to lose to them. I just don't want those to be the options, so I'm surely not going to be cheering his injury like some rather classless people.

Spurd_On 04-27-13 09:09 PM

It's been announced by the Thunder that he is done for the season.

KAD 04-28-13 12:28 PM

First I don't see the Clipps easily beating the Grizs and that series a toosup.
The GRizz will give the Thunder all thet can handle with a healthy WEstbrrok and with a hurt or no Westbrook they will be an even steven to move on.

Spurs need to focus on game 4 only now!


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