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I loved watching Matt Bonner today. He didn't take the three. His stayed closer in to the basket. He actually made an impact. Very unusual for Bonner in a playoff game.
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i was just gonna say the exact same thing. I cannot remember for the life of me, the last time Bonner had an impactful playoff game. He didn't hesitate on open 3s, and when he had the pump fake and drive, he did it. I think he's finally comfortable with the half floater/running hook shot that's he's been working on for the last... 5 years? RED MAMBA don't let me down! Continue with ur effectiveness. Defense was fairly credible too.
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It was a decent game for him... With that being said... Yea it probably was his best game.
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It's round 1, game 1, Bonnie does not totally suck, and that deserves a props to Bonner thread? Yeah he looked GREAT in a game the Spurs controlled from about 3 minutes from the opening tip. Give him time to choke, because he will. When the game is tight, and the Spurs are down by 6 or 8 and need a big-time three - he will pass up a wide open look. What would you rather have? A player like SJax, that yes, sucked all year, but is known for raising his level in the playoffs, or Bonnie, that has super awesomesauce regular seasons, only to shrivel like shrinky-dinks in a pizza oven come playoff time? |
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Yes. Whatever it is, Bonner's fake on Gasol and his drive to the basket completely surprising Howard still stands out in my mind. Talk all you want about what game it is and who the Spurs are playing against, it was a surprisingly great move against 2 All Star bigs with a successful finish. I take the playoffs 1 game at a time and could care less what game in a series it is or who the opponent.
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Get a stretcher: Playing longer than in any game this season in which any of the Spurs’ Big Three suited up, Matt Bonner logged 29 productive minutes that helped change the dynamics of Game 1. Bonner scored 10 points, grabbed five rebounds and played credible defense against Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol. More importantly, the threat of his 3-point shot kept the Lakers’ big men farther from the basket than they prefer. “It mixes things up on offense; makes them react differently; gives them different looks, spacing-wise,” Bonner said. “When you’re subbing in and out and having to make those adjustments, it can give your offense an edge sometimes.” Spurs Nation |
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Dont worry... There will be a bonner sucks thread before too long.. Because he does.
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Man people like to ***** about Bonner, to an extreme I am surprised by... I would rather have Bonner and his rebounding and defence and actual makes when it comes to the three.... rather than an older player in hibernation who may or may not wake up and do something but will definately give attitude about being the better player when he clearly isn't (that final one depends who he is talking about, but it seems he was talking about Kawhi or Danny and it would seem he is deluded at this stage of his career). I was excited when S Jax came back and he gave more than we would have got from Jefferson but I am quick to forget when he turns on those that gave him yet another chance. Bonner deserves the opportunity to get it right this year.
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The points were bonus. He played good defense and kept the bigs honest, rather than them camping in the paint all day. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bonner has played like this more often than he gets credit for, even in the playoffs. And Kager is spot on. |
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Did anyone else happen to catch Bonner's Vlade Divac impression as he walked to Timmy with his head down and hands behind his back as if looking for approval? That was great. I wonder if anyone can get a clip of it posted.
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I guess I don't see all this great defense... I saw him front howard a couple times.. I also saw him get owned a lot because of the mismatch. He had a good game.. nothing I would get too worked up about...Fact is last few years bonner came in and pretty much missed everything he put up in the playoffs and did nothing else.... Im surprised anyone is wondering why there is so much negativity towards Bonner. Its clear. He has been on and off in the season and horrible in the playoffs. (Uwe, no offense intended, but I have never seen good defense from Bonner in playoffs) Whats crazier? That I still think he sucks, or that after one good game you guys are gushing over him? With all that being said, im strictly talking about Bonner as a player. He seems like a great guy off the court.
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Timmy my thing has never been that he needs to be lauded as a big 4 part of this team I have more just thought that for $3.6 mill we are getting our moneys worth. It was just one game when it comes to the playoffs but lets see what he is able to do next, rather than this eternal rubbishing and over expectation of a low paid player. His defence has picked up this year and so has his rebounding so he not just a gun for hire, he knows the defensive system and his part in it. Dwight Howard is going to over power most players so that is a bad example of him not defending, I think he did well making Howard work and go to the free throw line by fouling when he could (and he made those fouls count by not letting him get a shot off). The Red Mamba is doing whats asked of him even to a lesser degree his playoff 3 point % which isn't as bad as suggested being a drop from 41% to 33%. Then his scoring per 18 minutes reg season has been 6.5 (rebounds 3) and then his average per 13 minutes in the playoffs has been 3.4 (rebounds 2), so in 5 less per game he is one 3 pointer and one rebound down. People look for a scape goat and he has been it but I think there are more telling factors to losses than a bench player and even then the so called dissapearance isn't as dramatic as we are being led to believe.
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When a team comes to town in the regular season, they worry about who's playing and how to defend any of the Big Three. And they spend a day or two developing the scheme. Then they move on to how to defend Dirk, or Durant, or whoever is next on the schedule. During a series, they spend more time on the initial scheme, and then get to spend days analyzing what worked and what didn't. While Bonner may be nothing more than an afterthought in February, he can be a major focus by game three of a series. So maybe it's not (totally) a mental thing. Maybe it's a few hours of practice defending a stretch four. Maybe it's all the positions being defended a little better, leading to everything getting tougher. |
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I agree that Bonner is not at the level of any of those players and I am sure he would as well, there just needs to be light thrown on the subject that Bonner is not a starter and is not a highly paid piece of the organisation. So his worth to the team should be graded based on these facts and who you could get to replace him for the same money and what they would bring instead. And if someone is going to find someone to throw in the ring look at established available players for the same money not a rookie contract player.
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He had a good game, played decent defense, and was rewarded with minutes. If he shoots 1-6 in 13 minutes Wednesday, it's not likely he'll get another opportunity to play those type of minutes. Unless the defense remains decent. Then again, that dribble drive with the lefty floater may have been in the works for years! ![]() |
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Good game one by Bonner no doubt! If he can keep that up cool! I will not count on it though.
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My theory is that Parker's dribble penetration creates havoc for opposing defenses. Green gets wide open shots, that he makes, as the defense tries to rotate, but when Parker is out or is contained by a good one on one defender, like Sefalosha, Green becomes infective. |
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I don't think people realize the cause and effect of basketball. All the guys like Horry, Finley, Kerr, etc., had a championship team in its prime. They had guys that would draw in defenses from the 3pt line, giving them an open shot. The game winning shot in Game 5 of the Finals against Detroit, Rasheed left Horry to double Manu. Kerr was always open because teams had to contend with Manu and Tim, and Jordan and Pippen before that. At this point, teams are living with Tim having a good game while being guarded man to man, as long as they keep Tony out of the paint. As bigdon just pointed out, Green started going downhill when Tony went down. Now the Lakers are basically intimidating Tony into trying a bunch of jumpers and making it difficult to run the Spurs offense. My point to all this was, defenses get stingy at the 3pt line in the playoffs, and if there is nothing to draw defenders away from the 3pt line, there aren't a lot of open opportunities. I guess Bonner could force shots up more, but then everyone would get pissed about that too. Don't worry though, once Diaw comes back Bonner will go back to the bench anyway. |
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Confidence can go a long way, he overthinks ALOT IMO and does not just let it fly miss or hit.
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Exactly.
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Regarding his defense on Howard, I also agree that Howard does that to most people. However, that's Bonner's defense on pretty much anyone. I understand he tries, but the fact is he isn't a good defender nor is he particularly strong. I hope Bonner tears it up on both ends and proves me wrong. I definitely wont be hopping on the bandwagon after one game though. Go Spurs.
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Hopefully after tonight it will be known as Bonner's Second Best Playoff Game Ever
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Yea I noticed that I got my slow white guys mixed up which is why I removed it. It was just such a bonner type defensive attempt. I'm not asking bonner to block shots... I'm asking him to hit wide open three balls... Which he hasn't been doing in the playoffs. He is consistently in front of his man until his man dribbles the ball. I can agree with that.
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Bonner brought it. Too bad I can't say the same for green. I'm curious to see how bonner does in La.
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Bonner is playing ball right now. Keep it up. Blair needs to sit out and Green is not playing well at all, Bonner though is off the crap list as of right now. I give him props.
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This is what I will be replying to you when bonner goes back to being bonner... Likely in LA. Even Jaren Jackson played way above his potential for a stretch... Hope bonner continues for spurs sake, but my money isn't on him.
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True but the Spurs hold a 1 million $ buyout. With Manu and SJax off the books.......I'm sure they want to create more cap room rather than paying Bonner 3.9 million.
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If he keeps playing well Yea I agree he is a bargain. In my opinion, thats a big If.
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And with the available $10 mill that you probably want to tack that money onto what has our track record been like for attracting free agents from the top end of the market? Quick hint its pretty bad so don't count on a big free agent as your solution. BTW Will you make huge statements from behind a screen, what are you basing your assurance that Bonner won't be here next year on? I see no signs that Bonner's status at the middle of the bench has changed, Blair seems to be the one more out of favour and first out.
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At 12 minutes per game in the regular year with a questionable overall history in the playoffs? Far from a bargain.
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It's not a given that Bonner's gone. They are going to need bodies, and bodies with experience in the system. Freeing up space is fine, but they are not going to land the big time free agent that takes all that space. They will probably sign some minor veterans. And up until last year, Bonner played significant minutes in the regular season and the playoffs. Now why would professional coaches and staff with much more knowledge of the game do that? Oh yeah, because he's not as bad as idiotic fans think he is.
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Show me where we can get another 6'10" experienced in Spurs way player,, high % 3 point shooter, who can cause havoc on Defense, great team player, who is happy with his role, for 3.9 million and I will gladly jump on the dump Bonner band wagon. The fact is he has always earned his keep nothing more nothing less. Let's press on to more important things like putting all our effort in helping our beloved Spurs win # 5. |
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Someone, please find me a single playoff game where bonnie has hit a big three when the Spurs where down by 8, 10 whatever and really needed to fight back into a game. He's playing well when the Spurs are up and there's no pressure. Sorry. Show me something when it counts. |
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Well who cares if he'll be back next year or not, none of us are in loop to know anything what the Spurs might do. So lets just be happy the guy for once... He's done a hell of a job, considering it's Bonner. We bash him and are always throwing him to the wolves... Now he's pretty good. Yes he could revert back to Bonner 1.0,but for now he's serving his purpose. If the majority think he's should have tire marks on his back, then Green should should have train tracks on his!
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