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td4mvp2k 01-08-13 12:25 PM

Rudy Gay to Suns?
 
The Phoenix Suns are discussing a trade for Rudy Gay with the Memphis Grizzlies. The Grizzlies want to acquire Jared Dudley and a future first round pick.

Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

td4mvp2k 01-08-13 12:38 PM

If it goes thru its alot like the Harden trade cuz its an allstar the Spurs dont have to play come Grizz.

alh1020 01-08-13 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by td4mvp2k (Post 1289724)
..... and a future first round pick.

I'm kind of surprised there's only a first round pick involved --- kind of figured it might include multiple picks.

Jose_TheGenius 01-08-13 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alh1020 (Post 1289727)
I'm kind of surprised there's only a first round pick involved --- kind of figured it might include multiple picks.

the Suns will only have Dragic, Gay, and Gortat. that combo won't get them anywhere far, a Phoenix lottery pick is a jackpot in itself. don't need to push for two and kill the deal.

Guille 01-08-13 06:03 PM

Maybe the pick involved is the one from the Lakers... they are heading for the lottery too :D

td4mvp2k 01-09-13 04:25 AM

Gay to Raptors?
 
The Toronto Raptors have had talks with the Grizzlies and the Raptors are offering a package centered around Jose Calderon, Ed Davis and future picks for Gay.

The Raptors tried to trade for Gay in June, even offering a package including their 8th overall pick that was Terrence Ross.

Marc Stein/ESPN

td4mvp2k 01-11-13 10:24 AM

Gay to T-Wolves?
 
The Minnesota Timberwolves turned down a trade with the Memphis Grizzlies for Rudy Gay.

Speculation suggests the Grizzlies offered a deal that would have sent Gay to the Timberwolves in return for Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic.

The Timberwolves expressed interest in signing Gay to a free agent deal in 2010.

Darren Wolfson/ESPN

Guille 01-11-13 12:03 PM

Wait... so you offer the Wolves Gay for Love and Pekovic, but are willing to take Dudley and one pick????

alh1020 01-11-13 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guille (Post 1290150)
Wait... so you offer the Wolves Gay for Love and Pekovic, but are willing to take Dudley and one pick????

Kinda makes ya wonder who's driving the bus, don't it?

td4mvp2k 01-12-13 11:42 AM

Gay to Wiz?
 
Add the Washington Wizards to the list of teams that are in the mix for the services of Grizzlies small forward Rudy Gay. Not clear on what the Wizards' offer might be but was told it was "a good one."

Still unconscionable, to me, that the Grizzlies are messing with a team that has all the pieces and experience to play for a title. "We believe," said Zach Randolph, when I asked if the Grizzlies saw themselves as a title contender. "We're just trying to stay focussed on the next game."

Maybe management won't find a deal that compels them to pull the trigger before the February trade deadline, but all indications are they're aggressively looking for one.

Ric Bucher

choppsboy 01-12-13 03:54 PM

Don't underestimate Dudley. He is a player.

td4mvp2k 01-13-13 12:47 PM

Okafor for Gay?
 
Educated guess: If Wizards are serious about acquiring Rudy Gay, any package involves Okafor contract ($14.5M, expires after next season).

Rick Bonnell/Charlotte Observer

spurscrazed 01-13-13 01:06 PM

td4mvp2k!

Stop Bolding All your posts please...
Bold only keywords or important words....Not Everything..lol
:banghead

td4mvp2k 01-13-13 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spurscrazed (Post 1290256)
td4mvp2k!

Stop Bolding All your posts please...
Bold only keywords or important words....Not Everything..lol
:banghead

Ya... You can please stop posting words that arent bold or important! :applause

spurscrazed 01-13-13 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by td4mvp2k (Post 1290258)
Ya... You can please stop posting words that arent bold or important! :applause

:rolleyes

Whatever!

Dulce 01-14-13 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spurscrazed (Post 1290275)
:rolleyes

Whatever!

:wink

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 10:11 AM

No Trade?
 
Although Memphis Grizzlies CEO Jason Levien recently declined to comment on persistent trade rumors surrounding the team, Rudy Gay is likely to stay with the organization through this season, according to a person with knowledge of those conversations.

The Grizzlies have entertained the Washington Wizards' offer for Gay. The crux of the Wizards' proposal would be the Grizzlies receiving rookie shooting guard Bradley Beal in a larger package.

The proposals for Zach Randolph -- who's also been in trade speculation -- have been even weaker.

Ronald Tillery/Memphis Commercial Appeal

Sdayi1 01-14-13 05:04 PM

And why is Memphis so desperate to deal him??? Especially given how well they're playing??

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 05:12 PM

Beal Out?
 
Bradley Beal hasn't been mentioned in trade talks between the Washington Wizards and Memphis Grizzlies centering on Rudy Gay, according to agent Mark Bartelstein.

”I’ve talked to both teams. There is absolutely nothing to it,” Bartelstein said.

“The Wizards have made it very clear that they are not moving Brad Beal.”

A report had stated on Monday that the Grizzlies have "entertained" an offer from the Wizards that includes Beal.

Michael Lee/Washington Post

katyspursfan 01-14-13 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by td4mvp2k (Post 1290258)
Ya... You can please stop posting words that arent bold or important! :applause

I feel your pain. You can always ignore him. He's about three days from joining Will.

Kind of like the folks at work who mark EVERY email they send as highly important. Create a rule to mark it Normal, Read and Move to Folder.

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdayi1 (Post 1290314)
And why is Memphis so desperate to deal him??? Especially given how well they're playing??

Tillery with a strong interview of Lionel, who makes it clear he does not support a Rudy trade during the season, and takes shot at John Hollinger.

In an interview, Lionel did NOT seem to object to a Gay trade during the offseason. Just doesn't want to break up team now.

But, yes, he's stubborn as hell and it'll be interesting to see how he works with new management.

By the way, Lionel has been tremendous for the Grizzlies. Team takes after him. Players appreciate his candor.

More Lionel: "There's a lot to be said about stats but there's a lot to be said about heart, toughness, courage and bravery."

Lionel on analytics: "I'm trying to still figure out when the Oakland Athletics have won a world championship."

Telling that Lionel talks about Rudy's size, quickness, ability to defend Durant/LeBron/etc. Lionel cares about defensive matchups most of all.

Ronald Tillery/Commercial Appeal

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katyspursfan (Post 1290316)
I feel your pain. You can always ignore him. He's about three days from joining Will.

Kind of like the folks at work who mark EVERY email they send as highly important. Create a rule to mark it Normal, Read and Move to Folder.

Ya I try.

Sdayi1 01-14-13 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by td4mvp2k (Post 1290317)
Tillery with a strong interview of Lionel, who makes it clear he does not support a Rudy trade during the season, and takes shot at John Hollinger.

In an interview, Lionel did NOT seem to object to a Gay trade during the offseason. Just doesn't want to break up team now.

But, yes, he's stubborn as hell and it'll be interesting to see how he works with new management.

By the way, Lionel has been tremendous for the Grizzlies. Team takes after him. Players appreciate his candor.

More Lionel: "There's a lot to be said about stats but there's a lot to be said about heart, toughness, courage and bravery."

Lionel on analytics: "I'm trying to still figure out when the Oakland Athletics have won a world championship."

Telling that Lionel talks about Rudy's size, quickness, ability to defend Durant/LeBron/etc. Lionel cares about defensive matchups most of all.

Ronald Tillery/Commercial Appeal


Still doesn't explain why he is in every possible trade rumor. Even trading him in the offseason doesn't make sense, either. Dunno why they don't like him (seems like).

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdayi1 (Post 1290322)
Still doesn't explain why he is in every possible trade rumor. Even trading him in the offseason doesn't make sense, either. Dunno why they don't like him (seems like).

Ya its a Biz.

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 06:59 PM

Gay to Florida?
 
Right now the Grizzlies are exploring Rudy Gay’s trade value, a search that has turned up interesting names like Bradley Beal from Washington and J.J. Redick from Orlando, to name two of the many teams who have expressed interest in Gay. They are not in a big hurry to move Gay, but the process of assessing his trade value could well culminate in a move made before next month’s trade deadline.

Bill Ingram/HoopsWorld

katyspursfan 01-14-13 07:03 PM

Maybe the new cba and the luxury penalties have something to do with it.

Lionel seems to be in a kinda public power play, though.
Bad move against a newly hired GM.

td4mvp2k 01-14-13 07:06 PM

It looks like with all the reports he will be traded soon but where is the ?

buttsR4rebounding 01-15-13 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guille (Post 1290150)
Wait... so you offer the Wolves Gay for Love and Pekovic, but are willing to take Dudley and one pick????

Please read what the post said: The Grizzlies offered Gay for Love and Pekovic and the Wolves turned it down. The Grizz didn't turn that down and then only ask for Dudley and and a #1. facepalm

bills0 01-15-13 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdayi1 (Post 1290322)
Still doesn't explain why he is in every possible trade rumor. Even trading him in the off season doesn't make sense, either. Dunno why they don't like him (seems like).

Gay is getting $16M per year and is not producing at anywhere near that level (if he were on the Spurs he would be the highest paid player on the roster). On top of it he is owed over $50M on the current contract. I bet Hollinger thinks he can get more production for that kind of money.

td4mvp2k 01-19-13 10:23 AM

Gay to Cats?
 
You can go ahead and count the Charlotte Bobcats as one of the teams that are "aggressively" pursuing Rudy Gay -- may not have enough.The normally passive Bobcats are looking for deals. They may depart from the "build it through the draft" mode for the right player. I think the Bobcats would have a real problem with Rudy Gay's money, that seems to be the recurring theme on him.

Steve Kyler/HOOPSWORLD

td4mvp2k 01-19-13 10:38 AM

Gay to Magic?
 
Talked with Magic CEO Alex Martins last night. They have a detailed plan. No shortcuts. How does Memphis trim $5 or $6 million on a Rudy Gay trade... send him through Orlando... Magic get a pick or player. I don't think Rudy Gay ends up in Orlando, but he could be traded through Orlando. Especially if the third team has picks. The Magic using the TPE can make a loopsides deal work, because they can absorb the money with their TPE.

Steve Kyler/HOOPSWORLD

Mombear 01-19-13 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by td4mvp2k (Post 1290319)
Ya I try.

at least he's posting stuff...

You go boy!!! :rock :banana

:D

td4mvp2k 01-19-13 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mombear (Post 1290553)
at least he's posting stuff...

You go boy!!! :rock :banana

:D

:applause

td4mvp2k 01-20-13 11:10 AM

Gay to Nets?
 
Nets have made overtures to the Grizzlies about Gay but unless they get the 6'8" SF with the max contract, they're likely to stand pat at the deadline.

Talks I believe have taken place for Gay. Have no idea regarding Millsap.

There's validity to Nets' interest in Gay. How it turns out is anyone's guess

--On the likelihood of getting Gay and whether they're really interested in others...

Don't believe they can get Gay. No, otherwise

Other than Gay, I don't envision a relatively young All-Star forward being available, even if they had ample assets.

--On what they're like to give up and what they're not...

Yes. They're not going to break up primary nucleus to get Gay, though

Nets owner isn't concerned about overpaying players who produce. I would get Gay if all it took was four picks, Kris, MarShon

--On why the Nets' reported interest in Millsap...

If report is true Nets are considering trade for Millsap it’s surely not to keep, but to use in package to acquire Gay

--On whether getting Gay would mean dumping Gerald Wallace...

I believe they'd keep him. I believe they'd want to keep him. I believe they'd have no choice but to keep him

Wallace creates as many problems for defenders at the four as they do for him....except he's tougher than 90 percent of league

--If not Gay, what about using Humphries contract to get someone else...

They're not looking to acquire marginal players. Humprhies' contract more of an asset this summer as it enters expiration year

Nets aren't title contender this year. If someone can be had to put them closer to that level you do it. Rising UFA Millsap does not

The Nets had assigned a high priority to signing Gay back in 2010, believing they had enough cap space to lure the then 23-year-old. However, Memphis surprised everyone by giving Gay the max. He is owed $34.3 million over the next two years and has a player option on another $19.3 million in 2014-15. He is currently averaging 17.6 points and 5.8 rebounds, but shooting only 41.6 percent overall and 31.2 percent from three, both below his career averages.

Peter Vecsey

td4mvp2k 01-23-13 05:07 AM

No Trade for Gay?
 
The Memphis Grizzlies have agreed to trade Marreese Speights, Wayne Ellington, Josh Selby and a future draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Jon Leuer, according to a source.

The Grizzlies will save approximately $6 million with the trade, allowing management to avoid $4 million in luxury tax penalties.

The trade will allow the Grizzlies to keep Rudy Gay without tax penalties, but also bring more competitive offers.

The Cavaliers have waived Jeremy Pargo in order to make the trade work.The first round pick is protected from 1-5 and 15-30, according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst.

The Cavaliers have now traded for six first round picks since 2010.

Ronald Tillery/Memphis Commercial Appeal

td4mvp2k 01-23-13 05:13 AM

Grizzlies Sign 3?
 
Quote:

The Memphis Grizzlies will sign Bill Walker, Delonte West and Sasha Vujacic following their cap clearing trade on Tuesday.

Vujacic has been playing in Europe, while West was released by the Mavericks in October.

Rodger Sherman/SB Nation

Quote:

Memphis Grizzlies today signed Rio Grande Valley Vipers forward Chris Johnson for the 17th GATORADE Call-Up of the 2012-13 NBA Development League season. Johnson joins more than 110 players with NBA D-League experience currently on NBA rosters.

Johnson (6-6, 201, Dayton) has appeared in 21 games for the Vipers this season, averaging 12.6 points, 4.0 rebounds, 1.8 steals and 29.0 minutes. He scored a season-high 29 points in a 127-104 win over the Los Angeles D-Fenders on Jan. 7 at the 2013 NBA D-League Showcase in Reno, Nev. He ranks fourth in the League in three-pointers made (54), and is tied for sixth in steals (38).

A four-year contributor at Dayton, Johnson played in 138 career games for the Flyers, averaging 10.6 points and 6.1 rebounds during his career.

Johnson is expected to join the Grizzlies today and be available tonight when the team hosts the Los Angeles Lakers in Memphis, Tenn.

NBA.com

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td4mvp2k 01-30-13 05:01 PM

Gay to Raptors!
 
A deal for the Memphis Grizzlies to send Rudy Gay to the Toronto Raptors has been agreed upon, according to sources.

The Raptors will send out Jose Calderon and Ed Davis for Gay and Hamed Haddadi.

The Pistons will acquire Calderon, with the Grizzlies receiving Tayshaun Prince and Austin Daye.

The Grizzlies will also receive a second round pick from the Raptors.

Toronto is likely to waive Haddadi following a buyout, reports Ken Berger of CBS Sports.

The Grizzlies will save $5.8 million this season and $26.4 million over three season before factoring in potential luxury tax ramifications.

Marc Stein/ESPN

td4mvp2k 01-30-13 06:15 PM

Grizzlies just got more big and Spurs got to do the same!

td4mvp2k 01-31-13 08:43 PM

Grizzlies Contenders?
 
The Memphis Grizzlies have shown once before they can be contenders without Rudy Gay.

It's time to prove it again.

The Grizzlies started the process of moving on Thursday after trading their leading scorer to Toronto in a three-team deal that brought Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye and Ed Davis to Memphis.

The franchise's best postseason run came with Gay injured two seasons ago, with an upset of top-seeded San Antonio and then a thrilling seven-game Western Conference semifinal series against Oklahoma City. Before that, Memphis had never even won a playoff game.

"I don't think we're too scared. I think we've been here before without him," point guard Mike Conley said Thursday at the team's shootaround before a game at Oklahoma City.

"We've been without Zach (Randolph). We've had guys go down and we've had to deal with it. This team is great at playing with adversity," he added. "Hopefully, we can kind of mock what we did when Rudy was out that year and we made the playoff run and play that style of basketball."

Gay was out with a shoulder injury when Memphis fell a win short of the 2011 West finals - a series that included a triple-overtime loss. That created hope that Gay's return would push the Grizzlies over the top. Instead, they exited in the first round of last year's playoffs against the Los Angeles Clippers and have settled into fourth place in the West this season - albeit with the best first half of a season in team history.

"We're still one of the best teams in the league," general manager Chris Wallace said at a news conference at the FedExForum. "I don't believe we have taken a back seat in that regard. There's a tremendous amount of basketball still to be played here this season in Memphis, and hopefully a nice run in the playoffs as well."

The pressure of luxury tax penalties mounting led to the Gay deal, which also included backup center Hamed Haddadi going to Toronto. The Grizzlies also got a second-round pick in the trade, and point guard Jose Calderon went from the Raptors to Detroit.

It was Memphis' second budget-minded deal in just over a week, after reserves Marreese Speights, Wayne Ellington and Josh Selby were sent to Cleveland - along with a future first-round draft pick - for Jon Leuer and a trade exception.

Before the season, the Grizzlies opted not to re-sign O.J. Mayo and let him leave as a free agent.

"When you have champagne taste, you can't be on a beer budget," coach Lionel Hollins said, before going on to say he understands the challenges Memphis faces as one of the NBA's smaller markets.

Hollins, who advocated keeping the starting five together and is in the final year of his contract, said "time will tell" if the Grizzlies are a better team after the trade.

"I think we're still a good team. Other people can cry the blues about this, that and the other," Hollins said.

Hollins didn't give a ringing endorsement to any of the Grizzlies' new players, taking instead a show-me-what-you've-got approach. Even with Prince, a 10-year veteran, he said Memphis only faced him at most twice a year and he couldn't provide an assessment yet.

As for the success in 2011, Hollins quickly pointed out that Memphis added Shane Battier after Gay's injury to fill that void.

"He was a big part of why we won, and hopefully Tayshaun Prince can come in and contribute on a level that can help us continue to be competitive and successful in the West," Hollins said.

The Grizzlies still have a solid core to build around, with the All-Star tandem of Randolph and Marc Gasol in the frontcourt. Randolph was picked to the All-Star team for the second time in three years this season, and Gasol was picked last season while Randolph was hurt.

Despite leading Memphis in scoring, Gay was never an All-Star.

"I feel like we've still got our All-Star bigs. Tayshaun is a champion, an All-Star as well," guard Tony Allen said. "His resume speaks for itself. He's been proven to this league.

"I think our ambition stays the same. Our motives are still to get as far as we can into the playoffs," Allen said. "Each game that we have coming up, we intend to win."

The newcomers weren't ready to join the Grizzlies for their game Thursday night at Oklahoma City. At the earliest, they could play in a Friday night home game against Washington but all the players in the trade must first pass physicals.

"We've been a contender. I believe we still are a contender," Randolph said. "A lot of people counted us out, but I think we're still right where we was at. We got good players back, good up-and-coming players. We got a solidified player who has won championships and knows how to play and play defense and shoot pretty good from the field and from the 3-point line in Tayshaun."

One lingering issue is whether the Grizzlies, under new ownership that has committed to keeping the team in Memphis, are done with their cost-cutting or if more big moves could be ahead.

"We're hopeful that this is the end of the trade scene for us but it's a business and you never know. One day we're here and one day we're not," Conley said. "We've just got to make do with what we've got and go forward."

Wallace said the new owners are "in it to win" and the trade is not an indication that they are selling out because they can't afford to run the franchise.

"That's not my call or anything like that," Gasol added. "We have to play. We have to play and we have to win. It doesn't matter who's on the court and who's not."

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