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alh1020 11-24-12 10:36 PM

Andrew Bynum out indefinitely
 
Philadelphia rolled the dice this summer on making Andrew Bynum their future — they traded Andre Iguodala for him. They sold the fans on how they could build around him.

It’s far too early to say it came up snake eyes, but at the very least this is not going to be an easy point to make now.

Throw out that hopeful Christmas timeline, the Sixers have no idea when Bynum will return, Sixers GM Tony DiLeo told Dei Lynam of CSNPhilly.com.
“The bottom line is Andrew is out indefinitely,” DiLeo said. “We don’t know when he’ll be back. Only Andrew can answer that question — his body can answer that question. Basically there are no timelines.”
Ugh.

The details of the medical diagnosis are not good. Not good at all.
All four doctors have examined Bynum, studied the MRIs and come to the same conclusion: bilateral bone bruises and weakened cartilage in both knees. That’s exactly what general manager Tony DiLeo revealed on Saturday in an impromptu press conference.
This is different than the report that came out last week — from a doctor not involved in the diagnosis and who has not seen the MRIs — that called for surgery. That report was pure speculation, what the Sixers gave Saturday were facts. Just not pleasant ones.

Bynum is doing swimming and other low-impact conditioning. But there will need to be some on-court work after that.

And as Philly fans start to pile on Bynum, they should know that he will play through pain — he put off knee surgery in 2010 to be part of the Lakers title run, then in 2011 again played through a bone bruise to help the Lakers through 10 playoff games. He will play through pain.
But not this, and not right now.

And for a Philly team that gambled big on him, that sold a lot of season tickets based on his play, this is not good.

And we haven’t even gotten to the part where Bynum is a free agent next summer and both Philadelphia and other team are going to offer him his next contract, figuring out the money and years they should put on the table.

That is a whole new risk, but one based in part on what is going on now.

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Spurd_On 11-25-12 12:23 AM

How could you not screen for these conditions before trading away Iguodala?
It seems like a standard clause for a contract.

alh1020 11-25-12 07:24 AM

The only thing I could add to that is the Sixers’ eyes got bigger than their wallet or their common sense. Their eye was on the prize. Like the Spurs, they needed an established big man after they let Samuel Dalembert go. Unlike the Spurs, they didn’t, as you concluded, analyze or screen out the possibilities of reoccurring knees problems or personality issues. The Spurs are still in need for that big but they’re doing just fine without one, finding ways to mend that problem with the assets they do have. That ability comes from stabilized coaching which might account for the Spurs having 4 championships, a coach who is presently the longer sitting coach in the league and are the model franchise for efficiency in all sports.

SleepyAdamII 11-25-12 11:48 AM

I kinda wish all the teams involved knew about this to void the 4 team trade... the lakers get away with it again

Spurd_On 11-25-12 05:49 PM

Philly is one of many teams this season that can't come close to a packed house and sells tickets for practically nothing. Last season they were well on their way to building a strong fan base and enthusiasm. They owed it to their fans to make certain they were getting someone of equal or better value in return for the people they let go. Too bad for the fans and too bad for the organization as a whole.

maldoror 11-26-12 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spurd_On (Post 1287528)
Philly is one of many teams this season that can't come close to a packed house and sells tickets for practically nothing. Last season they were well on their way to building a strong fan base and enthusiasm. They owed it to their fans to make certain they were getting someone of equal or better value in return for the people they let go. Too bad for the fans and too bad for the organization as a whole.

Every team owes it to their fans that they get good value when they trade good players. Bynum was a better player than Iggy and the reason they got a better player is he came with some risk. They took a calculated gamble and lost. It happens.

spurscrazed 11-26-12 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepyAdamII (Post 1287521)
I kinda wish all the teams involved knew about this to void the 4 team trade... the lakers get away with it again

+1000000000000000000000000000

Amen That!

Spurd_On 11-26-12 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by maldoror (Post 1287536)
Every team owes it to their fans that they get good value when they trade good players. Bynum was a better player than Iggy and the reason they got a better player is he came with some risk. They took a calculated gamble and lost. It happens.

"The details of the medical diagnosis are not good. Not good at all.
All four doctors have examined Bynum, studied the MRIs and come to the same conclusion: bilateral bone bruises and weakened cartilage in both knees. That’s exactly what general manager Tony DiLeo revealed on Saturday in an impromptu press conference.
This is different than the report that came out last week — from a doctor not involved in the diagnosis and who has not seen the MRIs — that called for surgery. That report was pure speculation, what the Sixers gave Saturday were facts. Just not pleasant ones."

Performing these tests before the trade and factoring that into their descision would have made it a "calculated gamble". Its no secret that Bynum had a history of being sidelined with injury. I'm not certain what to call the move that the Sixers made but I'm glad they are not my money managers.

KAD 11-26-12 05:57 PM

Unfortunate


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