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Real Time NBA @NBA_365 A source has told NBA_365 that the Spurs are "seriously considering" signing Andray Blatche to a contract. https://twitter.com/NBA_365 |
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"seriously considering" when he apparently really wants to be here has to let you think they're extremely nervous signing a head case to the team. contrary to the board, the Spurs are being overly cautious instead of a "let's sign him right away", even if he's better than Bonner and Blair. this isn't a veteran team, so this guy may cause serious trouble in the locker room with the young guys.
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They need to sign him! Being not signed this late into the offseason means no one is seriously interested in him and he could come for minimum $ and potentially do very well for this team, not saying he's going to put us over the Thunder or Lakers but is he's motivated, it just might be one of the bigger surprises this season. Let's not forget how young the guy is, and let's not forget our big mans lack luster performances during the Thunder series, the Spurs need to take a chance here or there and do something about the big man situation already!
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Well, honestly, I haven't seen enough of him to have an opinion. But the Spurs should be in desperation mode. They need length and ANY kind of athleticism, and mostly they need attitude at the center position. So if this guy can do that, it's worth the risks. More importantly, he will most likely be looking to prove himself so he should stay on the straight and narrow.
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According to the espn list of the nba's 500 players, Blatche is number 254 and Mahinmi is 251.... Spurs on the list so far are Patty Mills 309 up from 316 James Anderson 424 down from 346 Cory Joseph 458 down from 434 Derrick Byars 488 nr last year As far as I can tell, Blair, Bonner and Splitter haven't been listed yet
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also remember the coach we have. he's one stupid move away from getting Blair/Bonner ahead of him in the rotation and probably causing fits. only reason i say that is that the Spurs are probably going pros and cons here because we do have to cut someone to make room for him. if he becomes a head case, we're one injury away from the remaining bigs from being royally fudged
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I think it's a pretty low risk, high reward type of move. What keeps me optimistic is that San Antonio definitely has a corporate culture and can bring the best out of players. Not only, Tim and Manu, but a player like Stephen Jackson who has the same character issues we fear in blatche. If Jackson can provide a legitimate sound board and Shepard this Blatche, we may get the best out of him. Also on the flip side , he's coming from being a HS player on the most dysfunctional franchise in Basketball. The Wizards are a case study in how to not run an organization ; and provided alot of pitfalls for a young guy like Blatche. I don't think the guy is a saint, but he was in a terrible environment ( should we remind ourselves the franchise player and his 6th man engaged in a duel over a card game?) Best case scenario, the guy comes off the bench, spells a big man for 20 minutes, and shores up a few misgivings we have on the team. Maybe he helps us start a guy like Splitter for the season, and provides energy off the bench. worst case scenario ; we cut him and try to salvage any big man from the d-league. Pipe Dream Scenario : he starts and bonds well with Duncan to form a frontline we havent had since 2007 |
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| What's not to like? Dude got great feel inside and Can hit the midrange jumper. Should be hat were all lookin for. So he's not a shot locker and a great rebounder but if he committed his game to the team mentality as he letting on to the public since being amnestied, should be a no brainer. Getting him would spell the end of DB
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it's a sad thought when people want to sign someone to get rid of the last big on the bench who didn't get many minutes in the postseason. getting rid of Dejuan Blair isn't going to help this team any unless we bump Splitter or (doubt it) Diaw in the rotation to show real depth. all we'd be doing is replacing Bonner or Blair with someone who'll get the same minutes.
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I don´t know. JaVale McGee turned out to be far better out of Washington. I´m not saying he will become an AllStar, but being in the Spurs would probably starigthen him a lot. Do you remember Manu´s almost triple double?
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So, for argument sake.....let's say the Spurs sign him. Do you still start Diaw or make Blatche the starting center....hmmmmmmmm. Better passing/shooting center (Diaw) or more length/size "true" center (Blatche). Thoughts........
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| You can't truly expect him to get away with that under Pop. I saw some imaturity and ignorance but I can't say I recognized stupidity. He seems to have natural BBall instincts and the ability to execute. He also demonstrated some unselfishness by passing off to teammates.
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| Not a veteran team? The big 3 along with S-Jax are enough to keep any player in check. Doesnt matter about the rest of the team. No matter who else is on the roster will fall in line after those veteran guys. Considering SJax came aboard and has no issues, he was just following suit with prototypical players while in the Spurs system
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Duncan + Ginobili + Parker + Jackson = 4 out of 10. this isn't a veteran team. we're relatively young in chemistry overall and in age. like i've said, i do think Pop will try to keep him in line or put him in the dog house like he's done with many players (especially guys who have done lesser things than Blatche may do like Nazr hoisting up a 3 at the end of a game), problem is we're short in depth as far as valuable players and a young team. the Spurs aren't outright offering him a deal because they know the consequences of taking this risk. it's not as easy as a lot of people on here make it sound. he pulls a Nazr at the end of a game or does something else and Splitter or Duncan (one has been injury prone and Duncan is older and needs rest anyway) go down, then you have Diaw/Splitter/Blatche/Bonner or Duncan/Diaw/Blatche/Bonner as your main rotational bigs which is a huge reason why we're trying to trade Blair for something over just waiving him because he's still valuable.
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This is a veteran team Tim - 15 SJax - 12 Tony - 11 Manu - 10 Diaw - 9 Bonner - 8 That's 6 right there with over 5 years NBA experience These guys are starting their 4th year Blair - 3 Mills - 3 Green - 3 these are starting their 3rd Neal - 2 Splitter - 2 - I don't consider a 'young' player even though he's only had 2 year NBA and finally Kawhi - 1 Cory - 1 And our rookie - Nando These guys have the experience so Blatche wouldn't be that much of a problem, but I just think his whole rep is so toxic that nobody wants to take a chance on him.
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| What does Splitter bring to the starting line-up that Blatche doesn't? Plus I actually love Splitter coming off the bench with Manu. They run the pick'n'roll excellent together. Not a big fan of Splitter starting in any scenario...just my 2 cents!
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the only guy who came in as a leader the 2nd year has to be Robert Horry during the championship run. that's extremely rare as they come and no one on this team comes close to him.
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I would feel better having a 3rd year big man start next to Duncan, than a low risk high reward guy. I like Blatche and am pushing to bring him in, but mostly because it makes me feel less guilty starting Splitter. Conversely , Blatche and Diaw off the bench with Mills, Neal and Leonard give the Spurs a pretty potent Bench to expand leads or score in bunches. I think Blatche makes a good team better, and if we get him for camp and he turns it around, I think we beat the Thunder. |
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I think Blacthe's attitude issue wouldn't affect the spurs too much. The second he steps out of line, he's cut. The spurs are back in the same spot they were when the season ended last year, and they have to find someone to add to the roster. If Blatche comes in and provides solid minutes off the bench , he allows other options to develop on the roster. Best case scenario, Blatche can be a 10/10 guy and start and give the spurs a solid young big man to run the floor and shore up the defense. |
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If he gets to come here, it will be with understanding he he let's TD, Manu, and Jack mold him. They, more than anything, or anyone, would be charged with riding herd on him. Once they have done their due diligence, the front office will pull the trigger.
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If we have noone else to spend the vet min on and party boy realises that he may ride the pine a large part of the season where his biggest stats are towel waves per basket.... then I can see that people are saying have him as big man insurance. But I just can't see him being happy to fit into a system where he has a role and a diminished one at that, so even if he comes here I can't see it working out and I can see him turning into a sooking mess like when he didn't get his triple double. That all said I would love to see him come here prove me totally wrong and just click in and get it cause as has been said he has the raw tools and could be huge for us.
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| +1 OT! that's going to be a major part of it. the Big 3 and Jackson already have their hands full molding the rest of the team (along with the coach of course). a lot of them have needed 2 years to get into the groove and improve, that's a lot to add with a guy who's been known to be in business for himself. at this point where we have a relatively young team and really old veteran legs, i wouldn't blame Duncan or Ginobili if they didn't want to take the extra duties when they have to worry about themselves and their bodies and basketball game.
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| Maybe they have done their due diligence and that's why they haven't pulled the trigger. Blatche needs to learn how to be a team player, hope he has his passport in order, I hear Europe is a nice place to spend a few months....
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I guess I was very vague, or presumptive. The notion I had floating around regarding the team herding/moldings him was merged with his willingness to check his who, learn, and be led as well as some the older guys seeing/feeling the need for his services. Something I have toyed with in this process is Kwai's success in his first year. Admittedly he is a wing player, not big. When all is said and done, one would have to think if he does not, he was not ready to "grow up" yet. I usually shy away from potential head cases, but for all his problems this guy seems like he could actually fit here. |
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As much as I think Signing Blatche maybe a good idea, going by RC's earlier statement this summer (The Spurs having the bigs they are going to have this season)we may just need to shuffle the line up. I'd still be up for starting Splitter and bringing Bonner and Diaw off the bench. I don't think Blair stays on the team through the season. Not only starting Splitter, but finishing games With Duncan and Splitter protecting the rim and tightening up our defense (which wasn't bad last year). |
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I say bring the guy on this team. He has more talent than anybody outside our top six guys. Maybe he would even be in the top four. If he stays a flake, no big risk and we dump him. If he plays up to his talent level, then we have a dynamic big man who at least makes us competitive with the other big dogs in the league.
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havent signed yet??? CMON!!! if I lived in SA, i was putting a giant sign in front of the spurs offices "HEY RC, SIGN BLATCHE" lolol
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If they took a chance on Diaw who was cut by the worst team in the league for the same reasons his attitude, conditioning and work ethic why shouldn't they take a chance on Blatche. He's young, big and still has a high ceiling. If it worked out with Diaw why not with Blatche?
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also, Duncan isn't Garnett. he's not a guy who'll get in your face if you cause trouble, he's the quiet leader. that may not work nowadays because he's not the best player on the court like he used to be, but he still gets treated as the best because he's our cornerstone. not taking anything away from Duncan's leadership, but we have had some "cancers" on the team who requested to leave and caused some drama (Mason wanted to leave because of playing time, same with Finley) at the end of the bench....that was with a FULL RELIABLE team, we don't have that right now. Quote:
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Jose, I see your point. However, we are talking about a guy who would be number 15 on the roster. If we don't like how he is behaving, we just cut him. And of story. This is a low risk maneuver. And there is just no way with the quality of young players that we have, one idiot could derail them. Also, think about this: if they sign him now, then they can tell him okay, get your rear to San Antonio, and start working out with Tim Duncan. Get your mind in shape along with your body. That is what I would do if I were in their shoes. |
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Only reason the Spurs haven't signed him is that the Spurs may not be ready. I see a move or two coming in the first part osf the season that may involve the departure of Blair and/or the addition of Ryan Richards. Richards' objectives with the Toros, however, are clear... BULK UP in the Gym and prepare as best you can to becoming a true contributing member of the Spurs in San Antonio. Blat he could help us, but our need is more geared for a big DEFENSIVE and REBOUNDING type Center than it is for a scorer. Without that type of defensive center the Lakers, primarily, are going to kill us. |
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One thing that he adds is he can space the floor, unlike splitter or Blair. That would help us out, even if his shotblocking is not fantastic. I do think you are right though, that there is probably some other move that is expected by the Spurs. They keep saying they are going to bring Blair into this season on the roster and that he will be a part of what this team is doing, but that makes zero sense given that he started all last year and then dropped off the face of the earth in the playoffs.
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I still say, he's NOT coming to the Spurs. He's been working out in Houston now for awhile and frankly IMHO the FO of the Spurs is good enough that if they really wanted him, they would have taken the steps needed to get him. And besides, every report has the Spurs working out a bunch of 6'8-6'9 players. And now the Nets are in Houston visiting with him, he's going to end up back on the East Coast.
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If Blatche gets a chance to play in NY even if the contract isn't guaranteed, he's going to take it.
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| Report: Nets take look at big man Andray Blatche Kurt Helin -- Sep 2, 2012, 8:01 AM EDT The Brooklyn Nets are leaving no stone unturned in looking for some big man depth. That included taking a look amnestied former Wizard center Andray Blatche, reports the New York Times. Blatche, 26, has been working out in Houston with a number of other N.B.A. players, under the guidance of John Lucas. He was set to meet with Nets Coach Avery Johnson sometime this weekend, according to two people with knowledge of the meeting. It was not clear whether the Nets were prepared to make Blatche an immediate offer or were simply exploring their options. I bet exploring their options. Blatche has always been a player of unfulfilled promise. He has the athletic tools and he has had some well-played Aprils after the Wizards were eliminated from the playoffs. But sustained success has eluded him. He has the focus of a four-year old. He put up better numbers for a couple years recently (16.8 points and 8.2 rebounds a game in 2011) but he was never terribly efficient, never took control with the team. Then last year he faltered and took a step back. The Nets had moved on and amnestied him. Everyone has moved on. He could work on a team where he just comes off the bench for 15 minutes a game and has no pressure or responsibilities. He’ll have to sign for the league minimum so it’s not a bad risk. But don’t expect much from him. Do you think after 7 years of this Blatche is finally going to get it? He’s saying all the right things but do the Nets, with all their new pieces, want to bring his mindset into a locker room where they are trying to build some chemistry? But someone will take a chance on Blatche before the season starts. alh1020: Sorry Wesley, didn't see your attached link until after I posted this one. Jerry Colangelo will continue as head of USA Basketball | ProBasketballTalk
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