TRADE IDEA (with you know who)

[WILLTHETHRILL]

Bonner, Derrick Byars and Cory Joseph to Toronto for Amir Johnson and two second round picks in 2013 and 2015. Also a right to swap second rounders in 2014.

Why Toronto does it:

Well the Red Rocket returns to his old stomping gounds. Joseph is from Canada. They could use more 3 point shooting and a young point guard to develop. Also they rid themselves of a long term contract. 3 years left for Amir for good money. They have Ed Davis anyway. Frees up more salary cap space for them too. Byars was used for trade purposes only to make it work. If Bonner flames out......there is a 1 million dollar buyout next year.

Why Spurs do it:

Amir is a young shot blocker who is a decent rebounder and a live body. Dude is only 25. The contract is more but I included two second rounders that might become a good picks down the road plus a more than likely swap in 2014. Spurs need a guy like him. A lanky guy but not huge. He will be able to motor down the court with the athletic bigs in the WC. Adds length to the front court.

Well to me this is a trade that makes sense and could add things to both squads. Toronto more so off the court.

[blaze24k]

How much is left on Johnson's contract? How tall is he?

[MichaelWi101]

The end of the world must be near, will the thriller makes sense with a trade proposal....

Seriously though, this actually does sound good, too bad none of us are the gm....

[grizzly_bexar]

I like Amir Johnson, but not with Cory Joseph in on the deal.

[WILLTHETHRILL]

Originally Posted by grizzly_bexar

I like Amir Johnson, but not with Cory Joseph in on the deal.

Well with TP, De Colo, Mills and Joseph? Where are the minutes for him? Too many PGs!

[grizzly_bexar]

I agree with that.

My problem is that I think (and I think the FO thinks too) that Joseph will be a better player than De Colo, Mills, or Neal.

So I hate to dump him but not get somebody with more talent in return.

[Uwe Blab]

I wouldn't mind seeing Amir Johnson here, although he's only 6'9". Amir Johnson seems like a great fit, but in all honesty that seems like a lopsided deal in Toronto's favor. They get a good 3pt shooter, a young PG with potential and 2 draft picks (Byars just a throw in). We get an offensively limited but athletic 6'9" PF who will be expected to play center. If I'm Toronto I do that deal immediately.

[WILLTHETHRILL]

Originally Posted by grizzly_bexar

I agree with that.

My problem is that I think (and I think the FO thinks too) that Joseph will be a better player than De Colo, Mills, or Neal.

So I hate to dump him but not get somebody with more talent in return.

Neal was not included because he is not a PG.

[WILLTHETHRILL]

Originally Posted by Uwe Blab

I wouldn't mind seeing Amir Johnson here, although he's only 6'9". Amir Johnson seems like a great fit, but in all honesty that seems like a lopsided deal in Toronto's favor. They get a good 3pt shooter, a young PG with potential and 2 draft picks (Byars just a throw in). We get an offensively limited but athletic 6'9" PF who will be expected to play center. If I'm Toronto I do that deal immediately.

You got it wrong. The trade idea had the SPURS not Toronto getting two second rounders and a right to swap 2nd rounders in one year. Reason I put that in was because of Amir's contract. If I was Toronto I would do the trade just for the future cap room alone. Bonner has a team buyout next summer.

[Jose_TheGenius]

Originally Posted by Uwe Blab

I wouldn't mind seeing Amir Johnson here, although he's only 6'9". Amir Johnson seems like a great fit, but in all honesty that seems like a lopsided deal in Toronto's favor. They get a good 3pt shooter, a young PG with potential and 2 draft picks (Byars just a throw in). We get an offensively limited but athletic 6'9" PF who will be expected to play center. If I'm Toronto I do that deal immediately.

we'd trade Bonner (who doesn't play center) for a PF who would then be asked to play center?

by William's trade, we'd still have Diaw & Splitter, so he'd stay at his natural position. Toronto gets a steal only because they'll probably not make the playoffs, hence Bonner won't look dreadful in the postseason.

[Uwe Blab]

Originally Posted by WILLTHETHRILL

You got it wrong. The trade idea had the SPURS not Toronto getting two second rounders and a right to swap 2nd rounders in one year. Reason I put that in was because of Amir's contract. If I was Toronto I would do the trade just for the future cap room alone. Bonner has a team buyout next summer.

Ah, my bad. Call Pop.

we'd trade Bonner (who doesn't play center) for a PF who would then be asked to play center?

by William's trade, we'd still have Diaw & Splitter, so he'd stay at his natural position. Toronto gets a steal only because they'll probably not make the playoffs, hence Bonner won't look dreadful in the postseason.

So you'd have Splitter at center and Johnson off the bench at PF? That would be mighty ugly if you ask me. I think you should trade Splitter instead of Bonner for Amir Johnson, if that's the case.

[Jose_TheGenius]

Originally Posted by Uwe Blab

So you'd have Splitter at center and Johnson off the bench at PF? That would be mighty ugly if you ask me. I think you should trade Splitter instead of Bonner for Amir Johnson, if that's the case.

so you'd rather trade Splitter and go with a Johnson/Bonner combo?

explain how that would be better

[BehaviorDisorder]

Pop is in LOVE with Bonner.... Bonner is a Spur for life.

[Jose_TheGenius]

Originally Posted by BehaviorDisorder

Pop is in LOVE with Bonner.... Bonner is a Spur for life.

DON'T SAY THOSE HURTFUL THINGS!