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Old 06-19-12, 02:11 AM
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UPDATE: Lorbek set to wear black and silver next season

On Monday, Project Spurs received word from a source that Erazem Lorbek (rights acquired by the San Antonio Spurs in the Kawhi Leonard-George Hill trade) was going to be coming to play in San Antonio next season per the Spanish website MundoDeportivo.com.

Here's an update from the front page cover from earlier. Writer Jesus Perez Ramos of Mundo Deportivo states (via translation) Lorbek will indeed be making his way to Texas to join the Spurs this coming season.

Update: Lorbek set to wear black and silver next season | June
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Old 06-19-12, 08:22 AM
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I'm just not really seeing where the money is going to come from for Lorbek and also to try to re-sign Boris.
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Old 06-19-12, 09:25 AM
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we dont resign Boris? since this Lorbek guy is an offensive guy anyways, same as Diaw, we get younger and is probably cheaper or we can amnesty bonner and resing Diaw and Lorbek, is this possible?
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Old 06-19-12, 09:29 AM
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Amnesty for Bonner doesn't get us any more money to re-sign Diaw, unfortunately. It just puts us (probably) below the luxury tax threshold.
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I'm just not really seeing where the money is going to come from for Lorbek and also to try to re-sign Boris.
Unless Timmy takes a helluva pay cut for the team in resigning.
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Old 06-19-12, 11:19 AM
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He's going to have to take a near-minimum salary for us to be under the cap enough to pay out more than the MLE to guys even spread across several players.
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He could always supplement his income by doing more Gunn and HEB commercials.
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He could always supplement his income by doing more Gunn and HEB commercials.
Scouting report on Lorbek is that he has a great outside shot and solid post moves, but critics question his sense of humor and comedic timing.
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Old 06-19-12, 03:12 PM
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it's too early to tell how much we'll have. it really depends on how much Duncan will want or take, then how much Green will want. if TD would take a modest to ridiculous paycut, Lorbek/De Colo may be feasible just with that.

don't count out the front office on maybe asking around how much Green may command around the league. if Green is out of our price range or we suspect he may be, we can match the offer sheet and sign & trade him for cap space (which would be automatic imo). if the Spurs suspect that to happen, we may be trading a Splitter or Neal for a draft pick for a SG to take Danny's place while Lorbek would be taking Splitter's roster spot.

TD paycut + Green sign and trade may = a Bonner or Splitter (depending if we can trade either or) amnesty to open up some cap space of close to $4 mill on top of everything. if we have a chance to bring Lorbek in with the current team, i wouldn't be surprised if Bonner is amnestied also since a Lorbek/Bonner front court defensively may rival a Bonner/Blair one in crapness.
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Just keep in mind that in order for us to clear $4 million of cap space, it actually has to be for greater than that. You have to factor in the $4 million, plus the value of the mid-level exception at 5 million we would lose, plus cap holds to fill out our roster. In other words, it's not going to happen.
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Old 06-19-12, 06:37 PM
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Just keep in mind that in order for us to clear $4 million of cap space, it actually has to be for greater than that. You have to factor in the $4 million, plus the value of the mid-level exception at 5 million we would lose, plus cap holds to fill out our roster. In other words, it's not going to happen.
i was in the thinking we're at $49 mill right now. if Green were to get an offer sheet we wouldn't match (say around $5-7 million) and we trade him for that amount for cap relief, that'd be another amount subtracted (so we'd be around $42-44 million if we lose out on Danny). factor in that amount with a Bonner amnesty, that would clear another $4 mill of cap relief. i think Duncan already has a set amount that he's gonna ask for in his head before we got booted from the playoffs and (just my opinion) we're looking at overseas guards in the hoping that Green gets a bloated deal somewhere (unless we can't match the offer sheet for a sign and trade, not a CBA "genius" myself )
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Old 06-19-12, 06:46 PM
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nevermind my post about offer sheets, i was still under the impression Green was a RFA, but we just have his Bird Rights.

still though, when FA's usually sign for another team (even Lebron/Bosh), they sign and trade them to have some cap relief (even though both teams never used them).
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You are correct that Danny is a restricted free agent. We have his "early" Bird rights which means we can match any offer up to the MLE.

If we trade him away, we don't get cap relief as you suggested. That is, if he gets signed for $5mil/year and we trade him to a team under the cap, our cap number doesn't go from $49mil to $44mil.

What happens is that we get a trade exception back so that we could trade for a player whose salary exceeds the salary we send back. So for example, if we get a trade exception for $5mil, and we trade Matt Bonner (What is he at, $4mil?), we can absorb back a contract at $9mil.

But even at that, your scenario is incomplete because it doesn't factor in the cap holds to get us to the minimum roster size.

Bottom line, you have to be WAY under the cap for being under the cap to mean anything.
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Here is a description from a fan about Lorbek's gm:
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Just write Erazem Lorbek in Youtube and you will see what kind of game he plays. He is 210, power forward. Has superb center technique but is a very good shooter from anywhere, good 3-point shot. He is not very fast nor athletic, but he still schools the more athletic players because of his IQ and technique. He can score in any way possible, so he is not easy to defend. He is not superb defender, but can do things right, block shots, play position defense etc. Average at FT. He is known to be super clutch, buzzer three pointers, last second rebounds-jump shots etc. Nerves of steel.
I didn't think he would ever go to NBA, especially because he is usually MVP level of any competition he played so far (national team, club and Europe) so he is one of the most wanted players for any big European club. He is probably taking salary cut to join the Spurs, at age of 28.
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Here is a description from a fan about Lorbek's gm:
What's not to like?
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What's not to like?
The most important part: he performes under pressure. I'm so over underachievers now
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The most important part: he performes under pressure. I'm so over underachievers now
Believe me we are all sick of it Ath.
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Scouting report on Lorbek is that he has a great outside shot and solid post moves, but critics question his sense of humor and comedic timing.
This will get you nowhere with Pop.
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Lorbek will give us an intelligent offensive player who can rebound, but he will not provide the defensive presence and shot blocking we are looking for. He will be an irritant for opposing players because he is smart and plays position defense.
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well, it seems as we will not sign Diaw and probably move Blair or Bonner or both, plus Timmy will take a pay cut, maybe sign this guy for a low salary the first year and increse his salary the following year, is this possible?
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If we don't sign Diaw, then we have the full mid-level exception up to $5mil to spend on Lorbek or anybody else.

I can't imagine we would pay Lorbek that much. No other Euros get that kind of deal. Manu got 2 years/$3mil. Splitter got the 1st round rookie contract. Oberto didn't get much. Scola got 3 years/$9mil.
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If we don't sign Diaw, then we have the full mid-level exception up to $5mil to spend on Lorbek or anybody else.

I can't imagine we would pay Lorbek that much. No other Euros get that kind of deal. Manu got 2 years/$3mil. Splitter got the 1st round rookie contract. Oberto didn't get much. Scola got 3 years/$9mil.
Splitter did not get the 1st round rookie contract because he waited 3 years after his draft date.
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If we don't sign Diaw, then we have the full mid-level exception up to $5mil to spend on Lorbek or anybody else.

I can't imagine we would pay Lorbek that much. No other Euros get that kind of deal. Manu got 2 years/$3mil. Splitter got the 1st round rookie contract. Oberto didn't get much. Scola got 3 years/$9mil.
isn't it sad we wouldn't pay Scola $3 mill a year but we would Bonner?
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isn't it sad we wouldn't pay Scola $3 mill a year but we would Bonner?
That was exactly what I thought when it happened. Wow.

"Sorry, Luis. No money and no room in the rotation."

"Hey Matt, here's 3 years, $9mil. Make yourself at home."
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isn't it sad we wouldn't pay Scola $3 mill a year but we would Bonner?
Yeah and don't forget signing Jackie 'Snackie" Butler instead of Robertas Javtokas!
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I thought Splitter was spoked to be a gamer.....
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I thought Splitter was spoked to be a gamer.....
and guess who we could've had instead of Splitter that year...

Marc Gasol.

UGH.
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and guess who we could've had instead of Splitter that year...

Marc Gasol.

UGH.
Just goes to show you that what sets this FO apart isn't perfection.

They don't always hit home runs, but they don't strike out very often.
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Just goes to show you that what sets this FO apart isn't perfection.

They don't always hit home runs, but they don't strike out very often.
don't make sense please. some people's heads might explode if you say Pop MIGHT make bad decisions from time to time
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