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Old 01-08-12, 07:36 PM
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Spurs 5 WORST FG% defense in league

OK, I have been holding my tongue for a while, but we are 8 games into the season now. The Spurs are in a 3 way tie with New York and Detroit for the 5th worst FG% defense in the league. Most of the games that the Spurs have played so far are road games for their opponent. Teams on the road typically shoot worse than at home. What's it going to look like when the Spurs start playing more road games?

Where's the D?
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Old 01-08-12, 07:57 PM
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The team is not what it was thats for sure, younger team now and yes they get stops here and there but they are not a great team anymore. It is what it is, we will probably drop quite a few of those on the road if you want to be honest.
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Old 01-08-12, 08:50 PM
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8 games in is too early for this topic...way early, come back in 20 games
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Old 01-08-12, 09:04 PM
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I agree with Flip, I had noticed this against the GSW, where they shot well over 54% until the last 5 minutes. I just think overall, league wide, all teams are all over the map, and we're not seeing much consistency anywhere.
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Old 01-09-12, 12:24 AM
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You've got to take into account the fact that the Spurs have a lot of young and new players, as well as players filling big minutes for the first time. Combined with the lack of any real preseason, and well, that's where your defense is.
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Old 01-09-12, 12:46 AM
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Those stats are skewed because Manu was there in few of those games as we heard Sean Elliott commenting during this game vs OKC.

Spurs now at home are much better defensive team than on the Road...

No wonder Spurs are still WINLESS on the 3 Road games they played which one was Manu's injured in, the other one was tonight with B2B after playing a physical Denver team at home, and the other one was at Houston which also on a Back 2 Back after they played Clippers at home...!!! :shocked


This is going to be a strange season and strange things have happened during lockout seasons. It a lot more difficult to give any predictions of any NBA team's strength or weaknesses especially with all those Back 2 Backs too!
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No wonder Spurs are still WINLESS on the 3 Road games they played which one was Manu's injured in, the other one was tonight with B2B after playing a physical Denver team at home, and the other one was at Houston which also on a Back 2 Back after they played Clippers at home...!!! :shocked
if stats mean anything, with the Thunder's win, the teams that have played a back to back to back are 6-0 on the 3rd game.

the problem isn't our defense, it's our attitude when we have the games at hand. when we go up by 15+ or so, we get sluggish and the rotations at times don't make sense (put in stupid mistakes by just about everyone too).

we're running a Phoenix Suns offense, we're not going to play Spurs defense as everyone wants. the purpose of this offense is to outscore and play ENOUGH defense to win (as you can tell by our record, we've been pretty decent at that). the problem right now is that Manu isn't on the floor to help the offense out. there could be rotations where Parker sits and Manu's in (vice versa) and we don't have that right now. we need the guys to step up once Parker sits (Duncan can't go 4 Down at all, it's been a sad sight when we've slowed it down and he's tried to take even the most vulnerable one on one just to miss it horribly).

stats don't also tell the whole story. give a game like the Mavs game where Dallas shot terribly early. you'd think the Mavs would never get to the 80 point margin or so. once our third stringers are in, they make shots. we still win of course, but their FG% takes a bump up.
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Pop said after the game this is the worst defensive team he's ever had.

Hasn't he said that before?

And he said that right before praising the defensive job Kawhi Leonard did.
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Old 01-11-12, 10:48 AM
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Though we all, along with Pop agree the team has major defensive problems, they are definitely exacerbated by some of the offensive woes. What am blathering about?? Quick example, Jennings picking Tony's pocket towards the end last night. He goes for a layup. How many of those did they get? Simple math says if a team was shooting 20 for fifty, then you add seven fast break layups in the next ten, you go from 40% to 45% add a couple tip ins and you up it a bit more. Even with good defense, you set yourself up for the poor statistical showing.

Put another way poor offense effects defense just as good defense sets up--leads to good offense. Open court turn overs, good rebounding and outlet passes, and defensive breakdowns lead to easy buckets. The turnovers and rebounding can totally ruin otherwise good effort.

Case in point, look at the early going last night. Good ball handling without turn overs and the Spurs take off. A couple turnovers, slow transition on rebounds, and pfft there goes the lead. Later, fourth quarter, same thing, a couple empty trips due to turnovers, then a couple misses and there they go from an almost comfortable lead to a seven point deficit. (poor offense ball security fueling the Bucks offense and handycapping the defense.)

A shaky defense cannot afford nor cover up for bad ball handling. In other words the team has to play smarter at both ends of the court. Without practice it is something they will have to try to teach and correct on the fly. (part of it is chemistry, which comes from all the various parts getting used to each other.)
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Old 01-11-12, 02:10 PM
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Old Timer, I agree.
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Old 01-11-12, 02:26 PM
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Pop said after the game this is the worst defensive team he's ever had.

Hasn't he said that before?

And he said that right before praising the defensive job Kawhi Leonard did.
yes but you can't really feel sorry for him (if you wanted to). he's playing guys like Blair and he's been sticking with guys like Bonner. if the guy wants to hang on his defensive mind and try to coach players in positions that are important to his ideology of defense (i.e. Bonner/Blair are the baseline help/big help), then it's on him. our offense has looked solid because (as some pointed last year), a lot of the plays the players are calling from their international play (plays from Argentina, France, etc.) there's no way to masquerade Blair and Bonner's deficiencies without hurting the team in another aspect (like giving them help and taking the legs away from the other guys because they have to help out).

it hurts Manu's out, but if he's really worried about our defense, he needs to figure out the best defensive squads with coaching some offense that isn't predictable (and not to complain RJ can't hit a 3 after standing 10 seconds in the same spot waiting for the pass).
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