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Dulce 09-10-09 12:25 AM

Joe Wilson Apologizes For Shouting "You Lie!" At Obama
 
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Joe Wilson Apologizes For Shouting "You Lie!" At Obama
Posted: 09- 9-09 11:26 PM

Fresh from a month of acrimonious town halls, House Republicans arrived for President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night with signs, props, and a lot of attitude.

But at least one congressman went way too far. Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama denied that his health care proposal would cover illegal immigrants.

All eyes turned in the South Carolina Republican's direction -- including Obama's, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's and Vice President Joe Biden's.

Wilson, looking agitated, leaned forward and began tapping away at his BlackBerry, as if he were Googling up proof that the president had, in fact, lied.

"Shame on you!" shouted someone from the Democratic side. "Throw him out!" shouted someone else. First Lady Michelle Obama, seated behind and above Wilson, seemed to mouth a drawn-out "damn" at the scene unfolding before her.

Not long after the speech ended, Wilson issued an apology. "This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President's remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill," he said. "While I disagree with the President's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility." Wilson also called the White House to apologize.


Wilson's wasn't the only disruption, though it was the most extreme. Throughout the speech, Republican members of Congress repeatedly held up stacks of papers that appeared to represent ideas they had for the bill.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) held signs that read "What Bill?" and "What Plan?"

When Obama told the chamber that the "death panel" lie was, in fact, a lie, a Republican member said loudly enough to be heard in the press gallery, "Read the bill" -- a common refrain at August's angry town hall meetings.


When Obama told the chamber that he had "no interest in putting insurance companies out of business," a Republican member responded with a loud, "Ha!"

"Nineteen years, never, never have I seen anything like this," said a furious Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) after the speech.

"I thought it was very inappropriate behavior, to hold up signs. None of us ever would have done that," said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.). "I don't think in the Congress of the United States there ought to be catcalls, or people standing up and yelling comments or holding up signs."

Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.), the longest serving member in House history, said he was not impressed by the GOP antics. "Well, you've got to understand: They're Republicans. They're just doing what comes natural," he told HuffPost.

Obama, in his speech, referenced Dingell's father for first introducing universal health care legislation in 1943. Dingell has introduced such a bill every year he's been in Congress and today's House bill bears his name.

"I am not the first President to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last," Obama said of the long history of failed efforts. It struck a chord with Dingell. "The best speech I've ever heard on the floor of the House," he said.

Joe Wilson Apologizes For Shouting "You Lie!" At Obama

:shocked :shocked :shocked

Jason R 09-10-09 01:04 AM

We're starting to look like Japan's Parliament!

Jason R 09-10-09 01:17 AM

I guess they don't read Robert's Rules of Order anymore.

Dulce 09-10-09 01:35 AM

Hopefully he'll be censured.

Jason R 09-10-09 07:37 AM

Not everyone, however, was busy assigning blame to Wilson. Los Angeles actor and comic Paul Scheer decided to shoulder it.

"I apologize 4 yelling 'liar' during Obama's speech," he jokingly wrote. "Sen McCain ate my Kit Kat while I was in the bathroom & he pretended like he didn't."

Wilson's heckle raises hackles on Facebook, Twitter - CNN.com

Dulce 09-10-09 08:06 AM

:lol

txbobcat 09-10-09 09:05 AM

that sly dog!!

jessi 09-10-09 09:21 AM

What's worse, the President lying to the nation or a congressman calling him on it? I know my answer.

Sith Lord 09-10-09 10:35 AM

I agree that there is a level of respect that should be lived up to as the President speaks. This was not cool.

Sith

admiralsnackbar 09-10-09 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessi (Post 1160628)
What's worse, the President lying to the nation or a congressman disruptively calling the POTUS a liar in spite of overwhelming evidence that said congressman is himself either a liar or too dim to read the facts? I know my answer.

Fixed.

WhiteChocolateJr 09-10-09 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessi (Post 1160628)
What's worse, the President lying to the nation or a congressman calling him on it? I know my answer.

Strange how one accused "lie" is bigger than another, proven one. IOKIYAR?

WhiteChocolateJr 09-10-09 01:50 PM

Also: Sith hit the nail on the head. Republicans, take note:

Holding up signs and disrupting a duly elected leader of the United States is NOT appropriate behavior, period. Doubly so when you're talking about elected "leaders" of a given district. That there are persons anywhere supporting Wilson's (and others') boneheaded demonstrations during a Presidential speech to Congress is a sad reflection on the state of civics education in this nation.

Bryhn 09-12-09 10:54 AM

Nice that Joe apologizes. Maybe Pelosi could learn something from him.

Money4Nothing 09-15-09 12:54 PM

I guess everyone forgot the NUMEROUS times that representatives and senators stood up on the floor of Congress and called George Bush a liar?

Now, they didn't impolitely interrupt one of Bush's speech to do this.

So....are we upset that Joe:
a. Interrupted the president
b. Called the president a liar


a = common decency
b = hypocrisy

$

JTD 09-15-09 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessi (Post 1160628)
What's worse, the President lying to the nation or a congressman calling him on it? I know my answer.


I noticed you weren't brave enough to put your answer!!!

Bryhn 09-15-09 05:22 PM

Quote:

I noticed you weren't brave enough to put your answer!!!
Really? You don't think we all know?

Quote:

Strange how one accused "lie" is bigger than another, proven one. IOKIYAR?

So, that is suppose to justify it? It is not about republican vs. democrat. It is about truth. If you believe everything he said in that speech then you are no different. I am sick of lies all over the place from both sides. The only difference is you have very few sources that are going to call out the left compared to the right. Fox news and conservative media may show bias, but they don't blatantly ignore issues. Obama doesn't have to answer anything. Nobody is questioning him.

So the above reference makes it o.k.? BTW, what is IOKIYAR?

Jason R 09-15-09 05:55 PM

Nobody is questioning Obama? CNN online has an updated feature, right now, about the Obama health care plan in its truth squad feature.

Bryhn 09-15-09 08:24 PM

Quote:

Nobody is questioning Obama? CNN online has an updated feature, right now, about the Obama health care plan in its truth squad feature.
Directly questioned. And I see nothing on cnn.com that you are referring to

frenchfred 09-16-09 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Money4Nothing (Post 1161234)
I guess everyone forgot the NUMEROUS times that representatives and senators stood up on the floor of Congress and called George Bush a liar?

Now, they didn't impolitely interrupt one of Bush's speech to do this.

So....are we upset that Joe:
a. Interrupted the president
b. Called the president a liar


a = common decency
b = hypocrisy

$

you are right although Bush did indeed lie and the issue was immanently important going to war or not. This war is still going and hundreds of thousand Iraqis lost their life because of that lie. But I agree with you about the interruption during a president speech.


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