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Old 08-19-09, 01:42 AM
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Carville: Let GOP kill health care -- then run against them

Carville: Let GOP kill health care -- then run against them

Democratic Party strategist James Carville offered up a new strategy for Democrats to follow in their battle to reform health care: Let the GOP defeat it, then defeat the GOP at the ballot box.

At a roundtable discussion with Republican consultant Mary Matalin and host John King on CNN's State of the Union, Carville argued that if the Democrats can come up with an agreement that is supported by most Democratic members of Congress, they should let the GOP filibuster it, thereby killing health care reform and effectively painting the Republicans as being the party that opposed fixing the system.

That, Carville implied, would backfire on the GOP in upcoming elections.

"Put a bill out there, make them filibuster it," Carville said. "Make them be what they are — the party of no. ... And you know what? Run on it. Let them kill it. Let them kill it with the interest group money, then run against them. That's what we ought to do."

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“What about this?,” Carville said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union, “Suppose they pass a House bill that can get 56 Senate Democrats.” Then, Carville suggested, instead of using reconciliation, a special budgetary maneuver in Senate procedure that frustrate GOP attempts to mount a filibuster, Democrats should call for a vote. “And make [Republicans] filibuster it. But the old kinda way is that they filibuster it and make’em go three weeks and all night and [Democrats] will be there the whole time.

“Then, you say, ‘They’re the people that stopped it. We had a majority of Democrats. We had a good bill. They stopped it.’"

Matalin, for her part, disagreed that the GOP would pay a price if health reform failed.

President Obama “will be fine but the Democrats in Congress won’t," she said. "And you’re already hearing Democrats in Congress saying, ‘This is déj* vu. This is what happened with Bill Clinton. He makes us walk the plank and then we lose’ — as they did ... in 1994."

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Old 08-19-09, 08:57 AM
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It would be a better strategy for the GOP to allow health care reform to pass, see how much more in debt our country goes and how little our health care improves, then bounce the Dems out of power.

I'm not saying I think it would happen that way, but it might.
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Old 08-19-09, 11:23 AM
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Yeah because that strategy worked great in 1994.
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Old 08-19-09, 04:31 PM
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I'm not sure how GOP can kill anything. Do the same as Stimulus Bill.
Let Democrats bring bill to vote and vote NO. It’s now Demo’s bill 100%.
If it works as Demos say, they stay in power for years, if not GOP wins in 2010.
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Old 08-19-09, 09:19 PM
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Do it dems!.... Take the mans advise..:applause
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Old 08-23-09, 01:46 PM
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This makes no sense. First of all, the Republicans don't have the numbers to filibuster so it will make the Democrats look weak and incapable of governing. Secondly, the only thing bipartisan right now is the opposition. 100 Dems won't support it without public option, 50 or so Dems won't support it with public option. Not to mention, the bill is not popular. Letting Republicans kill it would give them an accomplishment.

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Fewer than half of Americans, 45 percent, support reform as it's been explained to date, while 50 percent are opposed – with many more "strongly" opposed than strongly in favor, 40 percent vs. 27 percent. Support's at just 36 percent among independents, the crucial political center.
This bill is only popular among Dems who will already be voting Democratic next year anyway.
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