Advice to Young Men from an Old Man

[spurssheriff]

Advice to Young Men from an Old Man

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1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.

2. Don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time

3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.

4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.

5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.

6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent’s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what bull**** they try to feed you.

7. Don’t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, *****ing, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you’ll see what I mean.

8. Don’t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don’t want to come off as cynical.

9. You’ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don’t owe the vast majority of people ****.

10. Don’t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement’s primary purpose is to suppress you.

11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.

12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.

13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.

14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “**** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.

15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ******* somebody else.

16. Keep fit.

17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.

18. Don’t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don’t humiliate her. Don’t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don’t do it where you live. Don’t do it with people in your social circle. Don’t **** in your own back yard.
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.

20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ******* someone else.

21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.

22. Have and nurture friendships with women.

23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You’re going to see some girl and feel like you’ll die if you don’t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It’s her loss.

24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “**** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word cock (except in the context of “Don’t send a cock shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.

25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you “the look.” Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time. Don’t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.

26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.

27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.

28. Don’t be a poser. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.

29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ****ed over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.

30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.

[VDeal]

Originally Posted by Blake

Id say about 50% of that advice is worthless. My main beef is his condoning a fist fight when walking or running away is usually always an option.

At the risk of starting another argument with you Blake, I'm gonna say that the fist fight advice, may be more of a metaphor than actual physical violence. I take away from it, that you shouldn't let others intimidate you, that sometimes you need to take a stand, even if it means potentially getting harmed. But hey, that's just me.

[micah76]

Originally Posted by RickV

At the risk of starting another argument with you Blake, I'm gonna say that the fist fight advice, may be more of a metaphor than actual physical violence. I take away from it, that you shouldn't let others intimidate you, that sometimes you need to take a stand, even if it means potentially getting harmed. But hey, that's just me.

Exactly plus if you walk away without standing up for yourself, the other persons inner animal will mark you as prey. I went through this in high School until the Summer I magically grew 6-7 inches. Then I stood up for myself and no more bang bang on small kid. It's a lesson I will teach my kids. Stand up for yourself and never let someone physically intimidate you.

[Hairyhandedgent]

my advice to young men would be simple - it's taken from the punchline to an old joke

walk down the hill and make love to 'em all

[CRL]

From an old man to you young men... don't believe any of this ****.

[shelden]

Originally Posted by CRL

From an old man to you young men... don't believe any of this ****.

Good advice. No fooling, this is some of the most cynical, misogynistic crap I've ever read.

[kyleo]

Like he says at the end, take what you need. Personally, I found his candor refreshing. And I wouldn't call it misogynistic, just un-PC in certain areas (perceived gender equality especially). In particular, he says to back up your girlfriend, never cheat on her, and develop friendships with women without a sexual capacity.

[micah76]

Originally Posted by Blake

I think the lesson you're teaching your kid is 'magically grow 6-7 inches'.

There's no easy yes or no answer, but I'd say fight back only as an absolute last resort. Walking away is definitely better than suspension from school......just ask my nephew.

I don't think it was growing 6-7 inches that changed much of anything. It just gave me the confidence to stand up for myself.

It's funny you mention suspension from school for fighting. It is one of the things I disagree heatily with the school on. If a bully is picking on someone and that kid stands up for himself, they both get the same punishment. Chances are the bully either doesn't care about getting in trouble at home or won't get in trouble. Yet the kid getting tormented and finally stands up for himself knows he/she will get in trouble at home. This type of policy makes the bully so much more powerful and makes school life that much more unbearable for the kids who have to deal with them.

[PHANTOM21]

my advice to everyone!


rape, pillage and plunger first, ask questions later and never bet on the white man!

[SAScrub]

Originally Posted by spurssheriff

21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.

22. Have and nurture friendships with women.

[necron 99]

this article reeks of




In the immortal words of Conan the Barbarian to What is Best in Life? "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."


but seriously Blake, I don't mean to offend but you are coming across sounding like a wuss.

[TJinTX]

Regarding the "fist fight" advice, I tend to agree with it, to a point, whether he's speaking of a real fight, or more metaphorically. In order for me to go toe-to-toe with someone, a lot of things would have to have happened, and other options tried (or at least considered). Generally, I'll walk away from a confrontation, but not always. This has been to my physical detriment at times, too

[micah76]

Originally Posted by Blake

you say 'it didnt change anything' then say 'getting taller gave you confidence' all in a 2 sentence span.

Well I was trying to have a reasonable conversation but if you are going to parse everything I say and ignore context then what is the point.

[necron 99]

Originally Posted by Blake

Im just responding to what you said. You said 'getting taller gave me confidence'. Well what if you hadn't gotten taller? Would you still be macho? And stop getting all defensive all the time and just answer the question.

I'm 6-5 240 and Ive been on both the winning and the losing sides of fights and in the end, they all suck.

99% of fights involve women, money or egos........none of which are worth dealing or receiving blows.

So what you are saying is now that you've seen the light you don't have any women, money or ego?


btw, I am just throwing this out here to prove a point. You can choose to answer it....or just let it go. Your choice.

[necron 99]

there is no set timetable for maturity blake, it just happens. But don't worry, you'll get there.

[micah76]

Originally Posted by Blake

Im just responding to what you said. You said 'getting taller gave me confidence'. Well what if you hadn't gotten taller? Would you still be macho? And stop getting all defensive all the time and just answer the question.

I'm 6-5 240 and Ive been on both the winning and the losing sides of fights and in the end, they all suck.

99% of fights involve women, money or egos........none of which are worth dealing or receiving blows.

Confidence is a huge thing, Once I started standing up for myself and possibly because I was bigger, I stopped getting into so many fights. I myself am only 6' 200 pounds and have never fought over women or money and I would like to think I never fought over ego. Would I have gotten confidence without growing taller? Probably eventually but when you are punk kid things like height can have huge psychological effects. I assume if you are 6-5 you were probably a fairly tall kid. So maybe you didn't deal with the predators on the schoolyard who only mess with the small kids.

[SAScrub]

Originally Posted by Blake

1. there are more fish in the sea and that if a woman wants you to get in a fist fight over her, she's not worth it;
2. money comes and goes and if someone wants to fight me over cash, I'd rather just give it to them freely
3. I have a bigger ego than I like and I'm trying to get rid of it

any more questions? bring it on, this is fun.

I see both sides of this discussion.

1. Sure, you don't have to fight anymore to win a woman, but I sure as hell will fight to defend the woman I do have.
2. If someone is threatening to impact my ability to provide for my family, then I sure as hell will fight them.
3. Ego is not always a bad thing...everyone needs a little bit of ego.

[PHANTOM21]

i'll fight anyone after a 12pack and a bottle of tequila!

[Matias]

Keep fit. Trash de others.

[Matias]

Originally Posted by bonnington

Y con el cementerio de ravioles que hacemos?????????

[Money4Nothing]

Originally Posted by bonnington

Y con el cementerio de ravioles que hacemos?????????

You should ALWAYS be prepared to physically defend yourself. But.....

99% of confrontations can be tempered through the proper use of psycology. You should never fight if you can talk your way out of it. The vast majority of things are not worth being physically injured over. I can't believe that people actually get in physical fights over some of this crazy stuff. The only time I've ever fought was because someone else instigated it and I had no choice. But I'm trained in self-defense so I won

BTW being big has nothing to do with being confident or winning a fight. Its knowing what to do, and being mentally prepared for it. I'm a skinny dude but I know exactly what I would do if someone came at me looking to hit me. I've practiced it. All women especially should learn basic self-defense. Most would-be assailants will back off pretty quick once their nose is broken and their nuts are smashed.


BTW as a 30 year old who's made a lot of mistakes, my advice is be happy, be nice to others, believe in yourself, and stand up for what you think is right.

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[necron 99]

Originally Posted by Blake

this coming from the guy that called me a wuss?

Fine.......I know you are but what am I.

sticks and stones may break my bones.......and it hurts too!

[Jason R]

I tend to not run from a fair fight because I can usually disable a person fairly easily.

[Matias]

Originally Posted by Jason R

I tend to not run from a fair fight because I can usually disable a person fairly easily.

You knock them out with your Bible?

[Money4Nothing]

Originally Posted by Blake

and Jesus said unto the disciples, "lo, I say unto thee.....thou shalt not run from a fair fight if ye can disable thine opponent rather easily"

and when Peter heard this, he ran out and cut some dude's ear off

I'm on the floor laughing...


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[Jason R]

Jesus said for His disciples to carry a wallet, food and a sword when they traveled. Why would that be?

I don't think self defense is necessarily contrary to Biblical teachings. I take self defense and participate in MMA fighting just to keep sharp.

[Money4Nothing]

185 cm , 75kg FTW


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[SAScrub]

Originally Posted by Jason R

Jesus said for His disciples to carry a wallet, food and a sword when they traveled. Why would that be?

I don't think self defense is necessarily contrary to Biblical teachings. I take self defense and participate in MMA fighting just to keep sharp.

"For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing"

[Money4Nothing]

Damn now I feel like getting some gloves and sparring.

Grrrrrrr.... primal rage.....


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[Jason R]

Defending myself against an aggressor? Self defense.

[spurssheriff]

All this activity and response for something that was posted on CraigsList of all places.

[Money4Nothing]

I'm getting my next wife from Craigslist

Yea! LoL!
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