Originally Posted by choppsboy
How many rings does Payton have?
Where was Gary Payton in Game 5 of the 1994 NBA playoffs? Remember when when Robert Pack of the Denver nuggets scored 23 points leading the 8th seed Nuggets over the 1st seed Supersonic? That was Payton's man scoring all those points.
Playing Jordan "better than any player of the era" doesn't mean crap when you still lose.
Payton never took his team to the championship. Tony Parker has done that.
Payton couldn't get the job done where Parker has both internationally and in the NBA.
Tony Parker is way past Gary Payton, and Parker has many years left.
This does seem like a bit of homerism. But, shoot, if you can't be a homer on SR, then where?
You sure have put a lot of weight on championships, but I bet that Tony has none without Duncan. Parker's best years (personal stats-wise) are not any better than Payton's. Payton was a much better defender.
Right now, I think Parker is an even bet to get in to the HOF. The next few years will tip the scales either way. Last year certainly won't hurt.